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#1 intruder

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Ascendentalne pozicije:

http://puck.dhs.org/new.zodiac torej gre se za update
po kakshnih 11 000 let...

Venera v Zmijonoscu

http://puck.dhs.org/...ophiucus/venus/

zhe odhaja....
http://puck.dhs.org/...us/00000013.GIF

Torej poleg Lune in Merkurja v Sextansu, Marsa v Cetus-u, Sonca v Ophiucus, kot primer navajamo Venero v Ophiucus. Text na taljanschini je za primorce;) Navajamo tudi Merkur v
Sextant-u. Luno v posebnih ozvezdjih smo mnda zhe imeli?

http://puck.dhs.org/.../constellations


= Merkur v Sextantu =

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Ena osnovnih in posebno zanimivih pozicij natalnega Merkurja je
seveda merkur v Sextantu. Ti resni ljudje so narejeni za bogatenje,
avanture, revolucije, marxizem, daljine. vedno so nekakor `od zunaj
shkatle', neodvisno se ozirajo na dogodke. Sextant je ozvezdje blizo
Kristove zvezde Regulus (Lev konstelacija). Pogosto se Luna najde z
Merkurjem v tej konstelaciji. Srechnezhi malo potrpijo, punca bo
nekakor dalech, ljubezen potuje, pisma in komunikacije se dokaj
vlechejo zaradi razdalje. Na ljudje z to pozicijo lahko rachunamo
ko se gre za neodvisno oceno. najbrzh bojo novinari in poslovni
ljudje, pa tle najdemo tudi mantike, mage, astrologe, grafologe
in celo vrstico ved katere monitorirajo druge vede.

= Mercurio in Sestante =
astrologia basilare
http://puck.dhs.org

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Tra le varie constellazioni nelle quali troviamo la Luna ed
il pianeta Mercurio, ecco una presentazione di astroligia
elementare ossia il Mercurio natale nella constellazione
del Sestante. Si sa che il Sestante e una delle molte
constellazioni basilari nella quale moltissimi italiani
(specialmente colti) hanno la Luna natale, oppure il Mercurio.
E possibile avere percio la Luna _e_ il pianeta Mercurio
nella constellazione del Sestante (o in altre constellazioni).

Il Sestante e una constellazione vicino a Rigel del Leone, la
stella del Cristo. La Luna, il Mercurio o alteri oggetti (comete,
centauri, transnettuni giganti) in questa constellazione contribuiscono
ad un attegiamento serio, distante, tranquillo, pero anche communista,
rivoluzionario, affaristico, avventuriero. La posizione del Mercurio
un po `spostata' attinge alle anime avventuriere, i viaggiatori,
esuli, persone indipendenti, circospette; e trattandosi di una
posizione divinatoria, qui troviamo astrologhi, grafologhi e magi /1/.

/1/ Siccome non c'e traccia d'astrologia (o magia) in Italia,
oltre a povere buffonate, sicuramente il significato d'
astrologia sfuggera al lettore. E da anni che s'osserva
una triste mancanza di cultura astrologica e generale
e un rifiuto alla tale. Colpa anche del publico.

= Mercury in Sextans =

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Not only the Moon, but also Mercury, and of course comets and
asteroids, can figure out in less known constellations in your
own horoscope. In this case we want to discuss the character of
Mercury in Sextans constellation. The wheel chart will fool you
as it did with the Moon and you'll think it's in Leo or Cancer
when it's not. Out of bound planets dwell in less known constellations.

This special position for Mercury features an optimistic mind
possibly revolutionary (left wing) and brave. Whatever is the
task of such a Mercury, the issue is a happy one, although in
the pursuit there will be emotional wounds and separations.
Comradeship is paramount. The beloved is far away since this
position alludes to letters sent and unsent and people who have
physical difficulties in communication. One's in a special state
of isolation, perhaps a mission, polar cape, isolated country
and so on. The emotinal life might suffer, but one's optimism
eventually (surely) makes up for much discomfort.

This Mercury is far from the `normal' zodiacal constellations
(such as neighboring Leo), but not _too_ far. It's a stand by
position. One should wisely use astrogeography to profit from
this Mercury's placement. Let us remind the reader than the
cardinal points should be _oriented_ for best performance:
east = ascendant, south = M.C. (we have to rotate the map).

As a leader, this person is bound to lead people to their rights
even in a guerilla war and a successful one. Smecking of maoist
ideas, this person is nevertheless brave and nurturing. Perhaps
being a little apart and triangulating his own Guardian Angel
from some comfortable distance, this person ultimately begins
to love our biological legacy instead of just machines and
compasses. Encompassing empathy would make for an independent
analytical mind. This is the classical `out of the box' O5
exercise, where one takes the position of an uninterested
observerer (steps #3 and #4 in O5 Futurechanger Technique),
excellent features of independent journalism.

As businessman, this person is circumspect and fairly independent.
Mercury in Sextans means being rich. VIP connections might abound
and helpful ministers, particullary those dealing with national
minorities. The struggle is one `to tears' and one might even have
to sacrifice his emotional life for some time due to geographical
distance. This is a slanted position for an emigrant or one who
holds a special office perhaps in a foreign country. Andorra is
one such special country bordering with Spain and France and a
part of the swiss territory responds to this position, namely
the original cantons having nothing to do with french or italian
influences (therefore leo influence, the neighboring constellation).

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

See also our `The Moon in the 17 Constellations' article.
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surprises the beginner goes through is that his wishes come true
in mere hours or minutes on this physical plane! SnowCrash ™.
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= Venus in Ophiucus =

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Venus spends her time in Ophiucus constellaton roughly from
Nov 9th to Nov 23rd 2003. This is a special constellation
for Venus to be in. Venus starts it's entry with a very close
Ixion conjunction, passing `below' Quaoar and Pluto. It exits
Ophiucus with a 2002 MS4 conjunction.

Here some general portents. Students face setbacks and hardship
as it seems impossible to get ahead. Students may do well to a
wait and study in quiet during this venomous passage.

The time is not good for marriage, although persons of the same
sex will go together well towards the end of the period. The first
part of the period looks sad and bitter (Venus is not at home in
this sign!). hard work, health problems, bitter resentment, the
breaking of relationships, ... as you see, Venus in Ophiucus is
generally not a happy omen at all!

Relationships suffer and one whose significator is such a Venus
is bound to be `second best'. Particullary sensitive people and
those with Moon Uranus (or even Venus Neptune) afflictions (whether
in transit, direction, nativity or even horary) may even start a
homosexual relationship with likeminded persons who make them
happy. One has suffered too much dissapointments from the opposite
sex (perhaps a divorce!) and settles for narcisism in the form of
`better the devil of the same sex'. Of course only the _very_
sensitive will feel this sinister (dexter?) call from Venus in
Ophiucus this year, but if the directions are Moon Uranus afflictions,
you can count on the second part of this period as concerns a kinky
but merry time. Some asteroids can conjunct special stars in this
constellation, reinforcing this or that (mostly negative) aspect
of Ophiucus in general astrology.

It is possible to have the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and
various other objects in this constellation, presently haunted
by Quaoar and Pluto. http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html
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O5
In short, O5 is a surprising little technique, at first amusing,
then overhellming, majikal, shattering, divine. One of the major
surprises the beginner goes through is that his wishes come true
in mere hours or minutes on this physical plane! SnowCrash ™.
© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

matriX time:



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#2 El Nino

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Ophiucus? Kaj je to kakšen nov znak, hm ?
:D Rad bi se z vami družil tudi v živo, povejte mi če se kdaj mudite v moji okolici LJ, Moste.

#3 pokowc

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Intr. lepo povedan

#4 Mateja

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#5 intruder

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Ne gre se za nekaj posebnega. _Vse_ planete so _pogosto_ v "extrazodijakalnih" ozvezdij (danes sem skoval to besedo),
namrech veliko ljudi ima SONCE V OPHIUCUS pa se tega ne zavedajo!!! Vprashanje je che mi je Sonce v Strelcu ali v Ophiucus-u? Pa je she presenechanj, verjami mi!

Saturn je pravkar iz ORION-a (drushtvo v Mariborju)
zatrkal na vrata # Gemini ozvezdja. Hahaha! Zveni
noro zato kar je natanchno.

Astrology Reloaded?

nahitr..che mal probrskate imase tudi saturn v ophi.. 1986 1988... pa pluton v cetus itn..bo se tega, o tem niso mnda she pisai, zanimivo, denimo wtc mesec je narobe zrachunat na astrodatabank in vsepovsod, oa se ta mesec je v orionu, na brasilua asteroidu...kar klik na link pa srechno! seveda bom mal ponaal sem pa tja nahitr...sem na dumb station terminalu avesh torej mistype in naoake...pravkar em uploadal nove pozicihe...saturn je bil v orionu pred mali,..chudno da o tem ne pishejo.. gecno je da se planet lahko zaleti v konstelacijo 1 pa gre v 2 pa set durektno v 1 ker so narejene kot afrishke dezheke, ai texas arizona, gibljesh se kar naravnost ------ pa vseeno gresh iz dezhee v dezhelo, nekaj kot na giriskem, hahahhaaa

#6 El Nino

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Ojla intruder... kako si tole zračunam?? hm no ja grem gledat 87 saturna... hm v strelcu 20 stopinj, kje je tu ophi?? ne resno ne kapiram, kaj je to kakšen astroid? heh
:D Rad bi se z vami družil tudi v živo, povejte mi če se kdaj mudite v moji okolici LJ, Moste.

#7 intruder

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Vprashanje je kaj sploh Shkorpijon dela v astrologiji. Planete v hipu grejo skozi "rep" te konstelacije, v
Ophiucus-u se cele generacije nahajajo. Uran pa Pluto so celo zhivljenje lahko v Ophiucus... Kdaj si rojen? Mogoche
nekaj za sample izskeniram... Mogoche imash posebne pozicije;) http://puck.dhs.org (nekaj novic).

Pravzaprav se gre za (IAU) konvencijo. Planete so normalno v Sextansu ali /shirshem) Cetus-u, ali Orionu. WTC je shal na pol ko je Luna prishla v Orion! ...


... Imeli smo Quaoar na tem forumu. Quaoar je v Ophiucus z Plutonom (in 2002 MS4), in bo she cajta. Ixion in dva nova kentavrja so pri repu Skorpije (Antares ..).

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#8 intruder

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http://puck.dhs.org/extra nekaj novega: a si resnichno shkorpijon (sonce je samo 7 dni v tem ozvezdju), pluton v bootes, pluton v hudichevom znamenju, pluton v cauda serpentis, in she veliko tega za osvezhitev, celo zelo redki sluchaj luna v auriga, ... out of bound planets (velika deklinacija), ... http://puck.dhs.org/extrazidiacal

#9 intruder

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Dodate sovse pozicije za Pluton (Uran, Neptun)

1700 - 2100 namrech na primeru Plutona,

Pluton v Caput Serpentis (glava zmije, Hudichevo
ozvezdje), Ophiucus, Cauda Serpentis, Coma
Berenices (nekaj kot Veronikino lasishche, vidi
olje od Tiepolo, San Alvise, Venezia), Cetus,
Bootes, ...

Luna v Auriga (sic!), Cetus, Orion (WTC), ...

Merkur, Mars, itn,..

Dokaj komplexna tema. Planeti so "out of bounds" pri extremnih deklinacijah (Luna skoraj do 29 stopinj) in
pri dolochenih parametrih (iskreno: prekomplicirano za astrologe!).

Skorpija je najmanjsha. Sonce je v Shkorpiji samo pet dni. Ophiucus je ogromen, lahko imate stellium v Ophiucus.

Merkur v Sextans-u je zanimiv, Keanu Reeves ga ima
(Neo).

http://puck.dhs.org/extrazodiacal

#10 Sasha3

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:xx!: ups.... a to pomeni, da klasična astrologija... dobiva svoje nove... pole...? :sniky: :o Da to, kar "vemo" o astrologiji, ni tako natančno, ker obstaja še cel kup drugih ... podatkov, dejstev.. ki spremenijo celo zadevo?

Da nekdo ni Škorpija? Uh... :ph34r: :!: :cry:

#11 aakhut

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a ti mislsh, de che se mi ldje mentalno pa duhovno razvijamo, de se kozmos ne more? x:px


:vragec: x:)x x;)x
tut che pisker okol obrnesh pa se nanga vsedesh.....she zmeri sedish na dnu piskra

#12 intruder

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Shkorpijonu so dali pet dni. Gre se za stoletja previranja. V
Egiptu smo obchasih shteli 14 ozvezdij (ozvezdja), FELIX

_\/_ (pri Virgo) in Hippo... Morski Konjic..

Zaenkrat delam na (Shakespeare) Luna v Corvus.

Mogoche mi bo pomagala diominikanska (america
latina) masonerija, pa NASA; ni podatkov, dobim
sebe ko ishchem:

http://groups.google...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

Dodam:

Luna je v Cetus na 20 Julija 2003. To je standardna pozicija.

Zdej...

PLUTON SPLOH NIKDAJ NE GRE V OVEN ALI PA RIBE!!!

<< Tle se misli na ozvezdja (constellations), ne na konvencionalno tropikalno astrologijo/astronomijo. >>

PLUTON PLAZI skozi CETUS naravnost v BIKa =>---
ni za verjet pa je res! Tudi mene je zaneslo. Jusheraj sem
najdel kar LUNO V CORVIS pri Shekspirju. Iz Kitajske Astrologije vem za corvis, pa vseeno, ... komaj zdej mejlam NASA-o (prijatelje;) in masonerijo. Nobeden se ne ukvarja s tem! Niti Vivian robson, Lully je nekaj ... se s tem vkvarjal, ....?

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#13 lunca

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Saturn je pravkar iz ORION-a (drushtvo v Mariborju)
zatrkal na vrata # Gemini ozvezdja. Hahaha! Zveni
noro zato kar je natanchno. 

Iz tega navedenega verjetno pomeni, da čeprav je po efemeridih saturn na 5 raka, je v ozvezdju gemini- dvojčkov. Ali to pomeni, da če sem rojena v ovnu, je moje sonce v ozvezdju rib? To mi ni čist jasno. Čeprav sem že nekje brala podobne stvari.
Če maš kdaj čas, prosim, da poveš čisto po kmečko, sicer nas veliko tukaj na forumu, ne razume. Hvala za vnaprej

#14 intruder

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http://www.sandyloan.f2s.com online program z katerim lahko ugotovite pozicije.

Razlagam: seveda she vedno se drzhimo "tropikalnih" pozicij!
Saturn naj ostane kjer je. Saturn in Neptun nimajo vechjih
"shift"ov, deklinacij ali pa "out of bounds", najvechja presenechanaj delajo Luna la Pluton!

Gre se za dve _konvencije_. Che bi bilo po Navajo astrologiji bi imeli, denimo Zajchkove Capice (namesto repa Shkorpijona). Esxtrazodiakalna astrologija naj bi bila za radovedezhe in posebne sluchaje.

Tropikalna astrologija ostane, pa se z cajtom lahko _informiramo_ o siderealnoj, vedic (jyotisha), astronomskoj, itn. astronomiji. Jat sem itak v tem kar pach razvijam novo astrologijo za katero programi ne obstajajo.

Zaenkrat lahko preverite che magar planet ima veliko deklinacijo, Luna lahko celo skoraj 29 stopinj, to bojo
posebni sluchaji.

Klaudio

P.S.

Planeti imajo "siderealno" zhivljenje, torej se nam predstavljajo kot so na nebu. Pochasi je mogoch
shtudij tega tipa, zaenkrat che se odshteje "ayanamsa"
(24 stopinj) se dobi "ta prava" longituda. Z tem she vedno ne vemo che je Sonce v Ophiucus ali v Shkorpijonu.

Shkorpijon ozvezdje nikakor ni zodiakalni znak.
Zhal. Jaz nisem sam si zmislil te komplicirane
zadeve, uletel sem zhe zdavnaj, tudi jaz she vedno
za normalne zadeve vporabljam tropikalni sistem,
torej navadni domachi horoskop;)

Claudio

P.S.

http://www.distantsuns.com software!

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#15 Sasha3

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a ti mislsh, de che se mi ldje mentalno pa duhovno razvijamo, de se kozmos ne more?  x:px


:vragec:  x:)x  x;)x

x^x lubči,

če se tem spremembam prilagaja tudi astrologija, je zame vse kul..

Seveda ni treba, da sem Kozorog celo življenje... x:Dx :xx!:

#16 intruder

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Po kmechko (oziroma shtajarsko) ti vse lahko razlagajo punce in fantje iz drushtva Orion is Mariborja. Gre se za astronomijo.

Astronomija, torej. Pri astronomiji je vse vech al' manj jasno.

Primer Lune v Cetus za mesec August:

http://puck.dhs.org/...ugust.moon.html

http://puck.dhs.org/...03/00000004.GIF




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