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#1 ananta

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Objavljeno: 8. marec 2004, 16:32

Do we have only 13 zodiacal constellations, or up to 24?

= 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

It is widely ignored that the true zodiacal band does not
contain 13 constellations only (Ophiucus including), but
also a motley variety of constellations usually unknown to
the average astrologer. If Pluto was a planet, we would
have 28 zodiacal constellations. If we discard Pluto as a
mere transneptunian it is, we have a neat set of 24 (on the
double!) constellations. Expanding with Pluto, that for most
astrologers is nothing but a planet, we have the following 28
constellations the planets travel through at this time and age:

= 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org

The 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac

Aquarius
Aries
Auriga
Bootes
Cancer
Canis Minor
Capricornus
Cetus
Coma Berenices
Corvus
Crater
Eridanus
Gemini
Hydra
Leo
Leo Minor
Libra
Ophiucus
Orion
Pegasus
Pisces
Sagittarius
Scorpius
Scutum
Serpens
Sextans
Taurus
Virgo

= 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org

We have stated the Sun dwells "only 5 days" in Scorpius, while
it can apparently extend it's Scorpius sojourn to a week! The
largest constellation occupying the zodiac band is Virgo, where
the Sun lodges for 46 days.

We have the Moon moving through Libra, Scorpius and Ophiucus
for this Valentine. Let there be noted that the Sun is in Ophiucus
for an average of 18 days, roughly from Nov 30th to Dec 17th every
year. Transneptunians like Quaoar, Pluto or 2002 MS4, as well as
giant plutino Ixion are likely to dwell there for extended periods.

The Sun spends an average of 23 days in Libra, 7 in Scorpius and
18 in Ophiucus. This may vary from year to year, of course. It is
therefore a challenge for the incipient astrologer to calculate
his natal Sun's position.

= 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org

The progressions of the planets have been called "extrazodiacal",
while there's in fact nothing "extrazodiacal" in Orion or Ophiucus
and the rest, since the planets dwell quite normally there. We had
Saturn in Orion last year (and during the world wars), Usama had
the Moon near Xi Orionis and so did the WTC tragedy. Scutum or
Auriga may look arcane, but there is a score of positions that
are common place (e.g. Keanu Reeves' Mercury in Sextans), like
this year's Venus in Orion or recent Venus in Ophiucus.

http://puck.dhs.org/extra /cetus http://puck.dhs.org/nu /sambora

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

Valentine marks the end of Sun's journey through Capricornus and
it's entry into Aquarius. But does the Sun determine the Zodiac?

O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation
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Homework for my Students:

Which objects visit Serpens Cauda, Serpens Caput, Canis Minor or
Auriga? When (if ever) does it happen that Pluto travels through
Pisces or Aries? Can Crater be ascending? Which major centaur
dwells in Crater? Progress 2002 AW197 in Tiamat's surrounding.
How many days _after_ Valentine the Sun enters into Aquarius?

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#2 El Nino

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Objavljeno: 14. marec 2004, 10:49

Aquarius
Aries
Auriga
Bootes
Cancer
Canis Minor
Capricornus
Cetus
Coma Berenices
Corvus
Crater
Eridanus
Gemini
Hydra
Leo
Leo Minor
Libra
Ophiucus
Orion
Pegasus
Pisces
Sagittarius
Scorpius
Scutum
Serpens
Sextans
Taurus
Virgo


A obstajajo tudi stopinje od kje do kje je to? ala začetek vsakega, v "našem" zodiaku? jst bi ful meu asc v pegasu ;) če to gre, al pa ga staknem se v Scutumu ;) hehe sam kako so zdaj ribice pred vodnarjem? huhuh, hnic jasno
:D Rad bi se z vami družil tudi v živo, povejte mi če se kdaj mudite v moji okolici LJ, Moste.

#3 ananta

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Objavljeno: 15. marec 2004, 17:08

Sedna je v Cetus. Tudi Pluto gre v cetus, nikoli v aries ali pa Pisces. Gre se za ozvezdja, seveda, astronomija;)

Nekaj programiramo. she kakshen lublanski horoskopchek naredim pa o5 delavnice in sem v costa rica kjer bomo kar naprej programirali. En kolega je v Shvici, torej dva programsheka bojo, upam.

Zaenkrat se znajdem kakor zhe. Pa se:)

Gre se za oficijelni astonomski zodijak, Dr. Lee Shaphiro, itd, North Carolina observatory.

1977 pa nekaj update. Tudi astronomi tega ne vejo;)

Vechinoma sem kar sam naredil raziskavo! Potem sem chist sluchajno najdel da sta dva astronoma delala na tem 1977. Se pravi mogoche 5 astronoma na planeti ve za ta pravi zodijak!

Danes imamo novi planet ali karkoli je Oortov Objekt preden nam ga bo NASA postregla.

Hehehehe:)

#4 ananta

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Objavljeno: 23. marec 2004, 16:02

= SEDNA in the 12 ASTROLOGICAL HOUSES = Featuring 2004 DW Plutino
Contains a short majikal initiation, as well as Sedna talisman hints

Get rich with horary $edna in the second house and savour the deep
sea taste of Sednastrology while Sedna is still in Cetus constellation!

= New Planet Sedna in Finantial Astrology = http://puck.dhs.org

Sedna has already a fair finantial record. Why does it influence
the finantial $econd house of the horo$cope with such impetu$?

Hypoteticals such as the Avestans, Rathke Planets (see
under "darkplanets" on the site), and the Hamburg planets
precede the recent discoveries. Admetos is favorable to
stock exchange, much as 2002 AW197 is favorable to real estate.

Is Sedna Admetos? It could well be! It is not Phoebus of the
Rathke Planets, but it perhaps qualifies as Admetos of the
hamburgers. The last word is on Hamburg, of course. /Adm/:)

= SEDNA in the 12 ASTROLOGICAL HOUSES = Featuring 2004 DW Plutino

The recent large astronomical discoveries are being delineated in
astrological terms. After Varuna, Ixion, 2002 AW197, 2002 TX300
and that legendary Quaoar, we have 2004 DW and Sedna. Enjoy this
time of new classes of objects. The adventure started with 1992
QB1 a decan ago. 800 Kuiper Belt objects await delineation and
as it seems we have out first Oort Cloud Object 2003 VB12 "Sedna".

= Sedna = Astrological Delineation Update = http://puck.dhs.org

It was the summer of '69. http://puck.dhs.org/sedna/summer69.gif

Periodical summer conjunctions of our 2nd & 3rd moons (Cruithne &
2002 AA29) involve Sedna and this is a superb omen as it brings
relief to the omniverse. The nearest and the most distant blend
in cOMmunion! The most happy nativities are those enjoying close
conjunctions of 2002 AA29 and Sedna, such as in summer 1969. /*/

This effect is particullary felt in the sixties! The closest and
the most unimaginably distant and undiscovered blend in the sixties.
Let us not forget the astral vedic and Rathke Planets, as well as a
host of hypoteticals from Cassini Lilith to Nibiru. The sixties
downloaded this influences and we're just unzipping the files.

Centaur Thereus joins the configuration in the early seventies.
Centaur Pholus underlines the conjunctions around 1984. Chiron
passes by, towering. (This is the product of a brief scan; other
objects of interest are surely involved!).

Sedna 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7
2003VB12 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7
Cruithne 0.99764 .514819 19.8114 126.4230 43.6000 48200.5 285.4393 15.0
2004CJ39 12.952050 0.477604 3.5772 334.9720 133.6604 53040.5 5.4183 14.0
2004DW 39.473609 0.217911 20.5553 268.5371 73.3331 53200.5 157.5394 2.4

Since Sedna is fairly removed from most interplanetary disputes,
it must be consulted as a fair judge over the petty gravitational
matters closer to us. Astrologers either consult the centaurs,
which are perturbed by various planets, or the aloof world of
the transneptunians. But how can 2004 DW judge? Is Quaoar fair?
Nessus is too disturbed to do any judgement, and Asbolus, albeit
magus, has not as yet seen it all. The centaurs lack perspective
as they're thrown here and there by influences and planetary
gravitation. The centaurs are our close dark archangels, but
they are unable to encompass and judge creation. Only Sedna
is capable of impartial empathy towards the centaurs and
transneptunian cubewano, plutino (and SDO) objects.

Get rich with horary $edna in the second house and savour the deep
sea taste of Sednastrology while Sedna is still in Cetus constellation!

/Adm/ Admetos is a hypotetical and as such lacks perspective.
Sedna is a real object in Cetus, while hypotheticals
seldom claim latitude, declination or constellation.
|
This leaves Admetos = Sedna as an interesting (or mere?)
speculation. The second house effect is, nevertheless,
remarkable. Perhaps the two (?) work together?


As promised, a little majikal initiation + SEDNA IN MAJIK +

= Sedna in Majik = Featuring Dolphin Talismans by puck.dhs.org

Not only the centaurs like Asbolus or 1992 TA ("Pylenor") have
their majikal attributes. Sedna is aloof but filters majik as
well by the very virtue of it's placement against us. Sedna is
largely unconcerned with the inner turnmoil of the known solar
system. Her gifts are thus disinteressed with no strings attached.

This article precedes Sedna in the 12 astological houses much is the
same fashion evocational majik is the well of astrological initiation.

We don't suppose the house Franz Bardon has his own Sedna in,
as we introduce it here for the sake of record. Sedna is overaspected
in the magus incarnation horoscope but it is most remarkably the
Saturn Mars midpoint as it seems responsable for the magician's
captivity. Namely the nazi and a black lodge succeeded in torturing
the magus. This is a complex subject and horoscope I must leave
to more expert times. http://puck.dhs.org/sedna frabato

Frabato's supposed troubles with the undines and watery element
had a happy ending after dire danger. The depths are there to teach.

It seems yet another type of masonry enjoys plumpy water sprites
(more plumpy than sprites) here. Our obscure masonic hero Giacomo
Casanova midpoints Sedna within his winning Mars Jupiter in 5th
with womboid Cruithne brushing by. Sedna is long large and eternal
erection and a peculiar disinterest in all the things one posessed.

I love all, desire all, and after having it I don't crave for it
any longer. I have left that girl by the river, while it's still
in your mind. Castazeniac vibes, indeed. Casanova reminds us that
Sedna is not Admetos is not Nemesis.

http://puck.dhs.org /reports /reports1 Casanova features Venus
Devil Rose, HPMHC descending, Pholus Pluto, Sun Amor (darkplanet),
bedsides Cruithne Sedna Mars Jupiter cluster. Admetos and Nemesis
(darkplanet) seem involved with the magician's Moon.


Aleister Crowley's Sedna initiates him into love majik. This issues
93 Agape - Thelema = the famous formula of Love under Will. Bardon
adds "strong will" for the occasion, but this can be misleading.
Will is best conveyed by Carlos Castaneda, in my oppinion.

Changing hostility into friendship has been Crowley's forte, but
in cases like Mussolini, he also failed to obtain _too_much_
friendship and sanctuary. perhaps this is a Sedna lesson: don't
ask too much, or (for my O5 Masters:) "What does God (the Eagle)
owe to me that he must jump like a dog at my every whim?". Modesty.

Perhaps Sedna helps the aloof and disposes of the wordly man. One
can drink lemonade before and perhaps after the Holy Guardian Angel
appears. It is of course not any of my business to spill lemonade.

Sedna progresses very slowly in the magician's life. Year 1904.
(See http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW). Sedna brings the magician to his
purpO5e. PurpO5e is also the theme of Matrix-the-movie. Akasha is
loaded with PurpO5e. Rituals are carried on in the physical, astral
and mental domain. The secrets of the water element are hidden in
Sedna's progress. The spirits of the water elements led by Sedna's
progress in Cetus and the appropriate degree = head (spirit star or
ascended master = friendly inorganic being = immortal) are at the
service of the moral magus. The most beautiful undines are actually
a threat for the magus as many married one to regret it when they
were unable to remain faithful. Undines punish unfaithfulness with
death, justified by the very marriage contract. Sedna is an undine
for all practical purposes. In the seventh house it plays like a
dolphin with the magician's heart fountaining with love.

Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne
Lamia of 2004 DW. Aloof Sedna has much love, but 2004 DW is a
dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, 2004 DW
will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood.

The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should
marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness
can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and
will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an
astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the
neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the
undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true.

Sedna dips into the waters of our local omniverse like a siren
launching a deep cry into her waters. Science and vedic lore
agree about the composition of the minor planets in that they
are composed of ice (water) and alcol.

Sedna currently initiates (via the appropriate degree spirit star
head and ritual) into loveamulets. The amulets must be charged by
a trained and moral magus. ( Meaning 30 to 50 years of secret and
very hard training. )

= SEDNA in the 12 ASTROLOGICAL HOUSES = Featuring 2004 DW Plutino

The recent large astronomical discoveries are being delineated in
astrological terms. After Varuna, Ixion, 2002 AW197, 2002 TX300
and that legendary Quaoar, we have 2004 DW and Sedna. Enjoy this
time of new classes of objects. The adventure started with 1992
QB1 a decan ago. 800 Kuiper Belt objects await delineation and
as it seems we have out first Oort Cloud Object 2003 VB12 "Sedna".

http://puck.dhs.org /sedna /2004 DW /quaoar /varuna /ixion /comet

>> The article contains Sedna and 2004 DW delineations, as well
> as their meanings in the 12 horizon based astrological houses

Since both Sedna and 2004 DW contain a watery flavor, they are
coupled in this analysis. Morever the Sedna communication comes
in synch with 2004 DW discovery, even if it's own discovery is
marked Nov 11th 2003. The Minor Planet Center still classifies
Sedna as centaur object and we will probably see new classes of
objects popping out soon as we already did lately.

The zodiac loses 4 constellations, assuming Pluto is _not_ a planet.
In that case Eridanus (NEAT comet http://puck.dhs.org/comet, river
Po in Italy), Bootes (pastoral religions), Coma Berenices (Tiepolo's
Veronica's Hair at San Alvise) and Leo Minor (EVANGELVS SECUNDVS)
become EXTRA-zodiacal constellations, while they were of course
zodiacal in times when Pluto was officially a planet. Sitchinian
proposals taken into consideration, we have GAGA as Saturn's ex
satellite. Our zodiac reduces thus to 24 constellations, 25 in
extension, conveniently splitting Serpens in two.

http://puck.dhs.org/extra/cetus Is your natal Moon in Cetus, too?

Why Cetus? Because it is a _zodiacal_ constellation. Misconceptions
have the zodiac a 12 constellation ring, when it is a 13 (Ophiucus!)
constellation ring as concerns the Sun. The Sun journeys through
13 constellations. But the Moon, Pluto and the planets journey
through 28 constellations! This is largely out of reach for the
practical (?) 12zodiacal (often "tropical") astrologer. This
astrologer is _not_ concerned with the way things are (or were),
he deals with unexisting positions, impossible conjunctions,
immersed in a virtual simplified equinoctial model of the
constellations, good enough for some old egyptian primary
school perhaps, but not good at all for serious research.
No wonder astronomers keep laughing at tropical astrologers:
they deserve it in many ways. So do the siderealists and the
vedic. All of them refuse to take a simple glance at the sky.

http://puck.dhs.org/28 http://puck.dhs.org/sedna in 12 houses

Sedna is the protector of tritons, undines and evocational
magick dealing with the watery element, especially while it
still dives through Cetus. Watermonsters, krakens, lamias
and sirens speak through dolphins and whales to the uninitiated.

As concerns travel, it
is obvious Sedna will bring the acolyte across to Avalon,
as not just long journeys, but actually journeys out of this
world pertain to Sedna. Sedna's orbit alone dictates long
distance communication as Sedna features in horoscopes of
meditators, shamans and people who reside for a long time from
home. Sedna will determine space mission captains in the
future. Sedna liberates the meditator! Sedna
is not perturbed (much) by the planets, and is almost untouched
by sunrays, the better for the meditator to escape the ego-fires
of the heart-Sun. The Sun is malefic in vedic tought, as the
Moon is truemind. The centripetal pull of the Sun and it's ego
wishes symbolize (if not incorporate!) ego will (me, me!), but
Sedna is (almost = savikalpa samadhi) liberated from the major
gravitational basin, it is part of our system but fairly
with an "independent" (?) orbit. It is thus symbolized by the
meditator in savikalpa samadhi. :::||| heart

= Sedna = http://puck.dhs.org /sedna in the 12 astrological houses

Sedna in Cetus in the 12 Astrological Horizon based Houses

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/sedna

1. Insight. Balance. The Temple promotes longevity. Ancestral
spirits help averting heart disease.

Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as
1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs
mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East.
E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program
shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon.

2. Astrologers will look for Sedna in the second house even in
popular solar return charts! This is the best year one can
have, finantially speaking. There's a hint at real eastate,
too. Talisman: the dollar, the Eye in the Triangle, Shiva.

Windfall. The guru afloat on the sea. Sincerity. Good winds.
Chopping wood for the winter. Cached wood carried to the stove.
Storage. Resourceful? The maiden chops wood.

Is Sedna Admetos? It could well be! It is not Phoebus of the
Rathke Planets, but it perhaps qualifies as Admetos of the
hamburgers. The last word is on Hamburg, of course.

Get rich with horary $edna in the second house and savour the deep
sea taste of Sednastrology while Sedna is still in Cetus constellation!

= New Planet Sedna in Finantial Astrology = http://puck.dhs.org

Sedna has already a fair finantial record. Why does it influence
the finantial $econd house of the horo$cope with such impetu$?

Hypoteticals such as the Avestans, Rathke Planets (see
under "darkplanets" on the site), and the Hamburg planets
precede the recent discoveries. Admetos is favorable to
stock exchange, much as 2002 AW197 is favorable to real estate.

Is Sedna Admetos? It could well be! It is not Phoebus of the
Rathke Planets, but it perhaps qualifies as Admetos of the
hamburgers. The last word is on Hamburg, of course.

/Adm/ Admetos is a hypotetical and as such lacks perspective.
Sedna is a real object in Cetus, while hypotheticals
seldom propose a declination and constellation.

This leaves Admetos = Sedna as an interesting (or mere?)
speculation. The second house effect is, nevertheless,
remarkable. Perhaps the two (?) work together?

3. Inorganic being, but not as yet or necessary already or ever
a helper. Non-human, but perhaps rather evil. Black packt. Easter.
Do not travel to California, o.k. for New York (horary brief).

4. Painful events in the family.

The cusp of the 4th house is Nadir (not I.C.). This position is
most important as it strikes Sedna's own family affairs. Her
family then expands to all astral fauna. The shepardess of the
astral dolphins is surely wounded hearted after the slaughter done
to whales and dolphins. AVE MARIA STELLA MARIS. Sedna can be
coupled with Santa Lucia in her inorganic aspect. This will be
done in Venice as summer gift to students ,readers and O5 classes.

5. Good issue to steeling a wife. Stolen wife was not hidden (well)?
Magus and Astrologer. Sexual pest. Burglary after enrichment?
The unexpected Aiwass-like ward. FIAT LVX.

The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should
marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness
can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and
will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an
astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the
neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the
undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true.

It seems yet another type of masonry enjoys plumpy water sprites
(more plumpy than sprites) here. Our obscure masonic hero Giacomo
Casanova midpoints Sedna within his winning Mars Jupiter in 5th
with womboid Cruithne brushing by. Sedna is long large and eternal
erection and a peculiar disinterest in all the things one posessed.

I love all, desire all, and after having it I don't crave for it
any longer. I have left that girl by the river, while it's still
in your mind. Castazeniac vibes, indeed. Casanova reminds us that
Sedna is not Admetos is not Nemesis.

http://puck.dhs.org /reports /reports1 Casanova features Venus
Devil Rose, HPMHC descending, Pholus Pluto, Sun Amor (darkplanet),
bedsides Cruithne Sedna Mars Jupiter cluster. Admetos and Nemesis
(darkplanet) seem involved with the magician's Moon.

http://puck.dhs.org/venexia/casanova for birthplace and myth.

6. Yato yato yami tato nrsimhah. Saint Marc's inorganic guide is
Nrsimhah deva of the vedic lore, the protector of astral travel
ers such as Prahlada Maharaj). Inner fires burning ego remanants.
Reguls as MIKAL. /a/ A fishing cat. Guru search out of the Temple.
Out of the sea life crawls into the forest. Ancestral spirits lead
to the wood-of-no-guru. Ancestral spirits spread the MariX before
the initiate. The warp-and-woof of other life. Childbirth in the
Temple. Capitalism. Sea ecology. Marine expeditions.

Menkar can add up to fire hazard. Protect your stables. Take
special care of your cats. Altars built to deal with fires.
Vesta is especially interesting when dealing with 6th house
fire service and hazard. This position can "blow fire". The
fiery element can be greatly stressed with Regulus acting
on the planets in connection with Sedna here.

Note that we take the 6th house as being below the western
horizon. That is never done in tropical/popular astrology.

Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as
1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs
mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East.
E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program
shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon.

7. Sincere relationship and entwined souls. Super marriage!
Mountain sisters? Twin souls?

Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne
Lamia of 2004 DW. Aloof Sedna has much love, but 2004 DW is a
dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, 2004 DW
will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood.

The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should
marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness
can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and
will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an
astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the
neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the
undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true.

One should be careful checking for latitude and horizon.
When all is measured and checked out properly, there is
no mistake and Sedna is _really_ in the 7th house! /b/

<snip>
service of the moral magus. The most beautiful undines are actually
a threat for the magus as many married one to regret it when they
were unable to remain faithful. Undines punish unfaithfulness with
death, justified by the very marriage contract. Sedna is an undine
for all practical purposes. In the seventh house it plays like a
dolphin with the magician's heart fountaining with love.
</snip> <!-- See majikal initiation below -->

When is a planet in the 7th house? When above the horizon.
Checking Sedna in teh 7th house is especially tricky. Try
and get some hints learning from othe people's errors here:
http://puck.dhs.org/28 /extra /nu /dane.rudhyar /alan.leo
The article is "7th House Switch" http://puck.dhs.org/nu

Sedna is otherwise in the 6th house. Your astological
program does not know it. This is an old standard error
of popular astrology for the masses. Many authors have
their planets e.g. in the 12th when they're clearly in
1st, having the appropriate latitude and position under
the eastern horizon. The ascendant is Due East, of course.

8. Time pyramind. Errection. Sinking. Sea bottom. The flood.
The overflooding well.

9. Excellent for art and travel! Roundabout. Spring equinox.
Compare with Pegasus constellation. As concerns travel, it
is obvious Sedna will bring the acolyte across to Avalon,
as not just long journeys, but actually journeys out of this
world pertain to Sedna. Sedna's orbit alone dictates long
distance communication as Sedna features in horoscopes of
meditators, shamans and people who reside a long time from
home. Sedna will determine space mission captains in the
future.

Travel expands to second attention or waking up in one's dreams.
Still better, Sedna at in 9th liberates the meditator! Sedna
is not perturbed (much) by the planets, and is almost untouched
by sunrays, the better for the meditator to escape the ego-fires
of the heart-Sun. The Sun is malefic in vedic tought, as the
Moon is truemind. The centripetal pull of the Sun and it's ego
wishes symbolize (if not incorporate!) ego will (me, me!), but
Sedna is (almost = savikalpa samadhi) liberated from the major
gravitational basin, it is part of our system but fairly
with an "independent" (?) orbit. It is thus symbolized by the
meditator in savikalpa samadhi.

Since Sedna is fairly removed from most interplanetary disputes,
it must be consulted as a fair judge over the petty gravitational
matters closer to us. Astrologers either consult the centaurs,
which are perturbed by various planets, or the aloof world of
the transneptunians. But how can 2004 DW judge? Is Quaoar fair?
Nessus is too disturbed to do any judgement, and Asbolus, albeit
magus, has not as yet seen it all. The centaurs lack perspective
as they're thrown here and there by influences and planetary
gravitation. The centaurs are our close dark archangels, but
they are unable to encompass and judge creation. Only Sedna
is capable of impartial empathy towards the centaurs and
transneptunian cubewano, plutino (and SDO) objects.

Sedna in 11th 10th and 9th house and especially at the meridian
is a fair judge judging nothing, an aloof observer, the witness.
Om sakshi aham. I am the Witness separate of all.

10. Grail. ( Crater ? ). Flying? One year of good business?
Friends forever? Spirit helpers. Aiming at immortality after
meeting a spiritual ancestor and guide. Persist in poverty.

Space mission captain.

Menkar is not traditionally goood at all at the meridian and
Sedna has been coupled with Alpha Ceti for a while. Speaking
of coupling, Venus rises with Sedna at his time.

11. Wartime. Ra-Hoor-Khuit? The evil fixation of second attention.
Visiting the feudal lord. Bribing the nagual?

12. Bad issue? Hidden victory? Quickly out of the Temple? The Temple
of the Fast Redemption. O5. Chief druid. The Pope in Sicily.
The kayak. Niagara Falls. Transilvania Waterfalls.

The 1st, 6th and 12th houses are most certainly connected to
marine ecology, the sea and a sort of initiation. See also
Varuna delineation. The first house is like the song of the
old sea, the 6th enmeshes sea's secrets and is dangerous.
Fire at the sea bottom? The 12th house is like the release
from the sea, shooting up and forth, killing the raven of time.

Sedna strangely wards off large animals, albeit near by Menkar
attracts them. No large or wild animal will harm, but hazard
seems imminent and rather obvious. Risky circuswork pays off.

Animals are often demons. adam gave the names to all of the demons.

Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as
1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs
mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East.
E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program
shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon.

We don't suppose the house Franz Bardon has his own Sedna in,
as we introduce it here for the sake of record. Sedna is overaspected
in the magus incarnation horoscope but it is most remarkably the
Saturn Mars midpoint as it seems responsable for the magician's
captivity. Namely the nazi and a black lodge succeeded in torturing
the magus. This is a complex subject and horoscope I must leave
to more expert times. http://puck.dhs.org/sedna frabato

Frabato's supposed troubles with the undines and watery element
had a happy ending after dire danger. The depths are there to teach.

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/sedna

O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation
SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org

One should not be misled by non-astrologers who "think" Sedna is in
Taurus. It will slip in Taurus from Cetus in a couple of years (up
coming article, coupling Venus' approach to Hydra and 2004 DW).

Sedna 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7
2003VB12 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7

Sedna is of course delineated in Cetus. It happens that 2004 DW
is in Hydra, Quaoar in Ophiucus and so on. All this constellations
are not only ascendantal, they're also zodiacal. http://puck.dhs.org/28

Sedna is _not_ in Taurus yet. In a couple of years, 2004 DW becomes
actual, with Venus approaching Hydra (Venus is heading towards Orion
this summer; see "Venus in Orion" article http://puck.dhs.org/extra)
while Sedna changes constelation. Sedna's constellation change seems
remarkable, since it does not happen too often. Pluto most often than
not skips Pisces and Aries, heading through Cetus towards Taurus;
Sedna dives in much the same fashion, generally speaking. This will
puzzle the tropical astrologer, but then the days of tropicana were
counted at least ten years ago. "Jungian" 5-asteroid astrologers are
lO5t in some newagish hell. We stand at a new frontier called Oort's
cloud and those who are purpO5ely unaware of 1992 QB1 are hopelessly
10 years late. Meaning Interenet will swarm with "delineations" made
by people who have decent ideas about Chiron and deal with Vesta and
a couple of main-belt asteroids (major asteroid Eunomia excluded).

People not familiar with centaurs, SDO, cubewano and plutino objects
will puzzle at Sedna. Ready ideas won't help much. They should
delineate 2004 DW, since it "has no name". Yahooing for deep
mythological cut'n'paste delineations won't make an astrologer.

Sedna can be delineated by people who delineated 1992 QB1. They will
know it's nature and will apply a long tested _method_, testing the
orbit, perihelion, applying mythology with taste where required. This
kind of folk has no problem delineating an "unnamed" object.

Varuna, Ixion and Quaoar were all un-named when delineated.

Sedna is not named yet. It is still 2003 VB12.

Abouts:

28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW
Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html
Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

( Cetus bis )

Why Cetus? Because it is a _zodiacal_ constellation. Misconceptions
have the zodiac a 12 constellation ring, when it is a 13 (Ophiucus!)
constellation ring as concerns the Sun. The Sun journeys through
13 constellations. But the Moon, Pluto and the planets journey
through 28 constellations! This is largely out of reach for the
practical (?) 12zodiacal (often "tropical") astrologer. This
astrologer is _not_ concerned with the way things are (or were),
he deals with inexisting positions, impossible conjunctions,
immersed in a virtual simplified equinoctial model of the
constellations, good enough for some old egyptian primary
school perhaps, but not good at all for serious research.
No wonder astronomers keep laughing at tropical astrologers:
they deserve it in many ways. So do the siderealists and the
vedic. All of them refuse to take a simple glance at the sky.

More Abouts:

Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39
Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html
Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno
All Objects on http://groups.google.com
Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

= Sedna = http://puck.dhs.org

Sedna is our first Oort cloud object. It is a cold distant world.
Where is Sedna? It is coupled with Venus and Menkar at this time.
This objects can be observed e.g. in the evening in Europe. The
"planet" or Oort cloud object is in Cetus constellaton.

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/sedna

= Sedna delineation =

This particullary happy delineation is completely free of any
apocalyptic omen that was glooming our astrology in the case
of 2004 DW and Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/28 /c/

Since the article was written before any NASA communication,
the only way I can call 2003 VB12 is an Oort Cloud Object
(OCO). Thus the object is not a "supercentaur" and the
classes of objects have increased by one. We have the
first real Oort Cloud Object. 2004 DW is a KBO, a plutino.

Briefly checking with MPC on Mar 18th I see they still have
2003 VB12 under "centaurs". There's much hype and politic$
in all this Sedna mess. 2003 VB12 has been known to us since
November 2003, whatever it's designation, object class or
purpose. There was no need to hide it on purpO5e before some
"official" presentation. I noticed the NASA JPL HORIZONS Sun
Sparc slowed down since the D-day for Sedna:)

We are familiar with the object as it's designation changed
from 2003 VB16 to 2003 VB12. It was discovered last year and
variousely scheduled as "centaur". The somewhat obscure
designation was made still more obscure by quoting 2003 VB16
on the official discovery page (more or less a "hidden" one).

While this article is the product of a "hack" before any NASA
communication, it nevertheless confirms to several points in
the nature of the object, known or unknown. The delineation
is not mythology-based at this time.

Sedna is in Cetus in most horoscopes. This means you can have
Sedna rising along with your Cetus ascendant. Cetus rising in
the East is a daily matter. The Moon is in Cetus once or twice
a month and the maps show other objects of interest in this
zodiacal constelation http://puck.dhs.org/extra/cetus

Astronomers have determined Cetus is a zodiacal constellation
around 1977. The true astronomical zodiac thus consists of 28
constellations http://puck.dhs.org/28 some of them ascendental
meaning they can rise in due east at this time and age.

When the Moon or Venus are in Cetus, they are delineated in that
constellation. Pluto can be in Cetus but it cannot be in Aries or
Pisces. The simscans show Pluto and the lanets in Cetus.
http://puck.dhs.org/extra /cetus

Cetus http://puck.dhs.org /extra /cetus is a zodiacal constellation
since the planets, Pluto and the Moon, as well as a variety of minor
planets swarm this large and legendary constellation.

The Moon is in Cetus once or twice a month and will visit this part
of the sky in the summer months, too, e.g. around Aug 4th 2004.

The seventh house is the region above the western horizon.
Horizons can play tricks in Inuit regions, where the Sun
is said to rise in the West at times. /d/

We use astronomy to determine the horizon. Sedna above the
western horizon warrants a sincere relationship.

The object is full of dolphin energy. Several spiritual groups
use to initiate their members into astral dolphin realms, as
one can meet his dolphin guide. This guides are very faithful.

The houses full of dolphin energy are the 7th and 2nd houses.
The 2nd house is below the horizon (which is seldom true in
so-called popular tropical calculus). http://puck.dhs.org/28

A particulary painful situation is marked with Sedna in Nadir
position (due North). AVE MARIA STELLA MARIS. The bitter sea
of discreation treats our ships like nutshells. Qlippoth are
disposed of as the salt doll becomes One with the Ocean through
pain and grief. Pierced is the Heart of our Queen. This is Sedna
in grief. The position is not very good for lovers and marriage
as one of the two might resort to black voodoo, possibly...
(Note this is a provisory delineation only!).

The 4th house is one of grief, suggesting repentance. Perhaps
family affairs smeck of bitter Binah energy as Sedna sinks our
hopes as if aided by her shaman raven husband. This is clearly
a classical Saturn in Libra vibration.

The stars are spirits, rather than mere gas. The transneptunian
KBO (cubewano, plutino) are more than mere icy rocks. Inorganic
beings initiate the magus, as they are often classified as stars.

The errors of tropical astrology are many. See Alan Leo under
http://puck.dhs.org/nu for an initiation into horizons proper.

Notes:

Students study 2004 DW in Crater. http://puck.dhs.org/28 /2004DW

Fish-nets extend to Internet. Caught in the midst of the Net.
Sacrificed. Short lived? Tranquil, blessed, good salary. Immune
to any attack. Those are some of the + and - keys to be classified.

2003 VB12 "Sedna" ( this is an "early" note, the ephemeris should
be fairly reliable by the time one reads this )

If we don't want to be _too_ precise, Crowley's Sedna is
"tropically" at 2 Aries of longitude. We can "integrate"
precisely, for Lord Krsna and Buddha, too; but at this
stage we are happy with an "estimation".

1875-Jun-06 00:00 2.6384036 -7.6638753
1875-Sep-25 00:00 2.3307673 -7.7446282

Crowley

The ephemeris were produced online by Jon Giorgini's HORIZONS
integrator, NASA JPL, Pasadena, CA.

/a/ http://puck.dhs.org/nu /5gram MIKAL as Regulus.

/b/ Scores of modern astrologers and myriads of clients enjoy the
wrong position here. Many have e.g. Neptune in 6th when it should
be in the 7th house. Check Alan and Dane http://puck.dhs.org/nu
for clues. It might well be your case. The same applies for the
12th and 1st house switch and (work in progress) seemingly even
for the 5th/8th house switch in some odd cases (?).

/c/ Varuna wasn't a happy delineation either. Ixion bore some joy,
majik, perhaps even fair sex, achemy and variety. Varuna smecked
evil gods and Quaoar pushed us into war. Darkplanet Lamia conjunct
Pluto prepared the jihad stage. Now the jihad scenary is strangely
quiet and no atomic bombs were set in metropolic undergrounds. This
puts us off guard, which is always good for someone.

/d/ Quoting Curly Mae from Alkavik. Ne pivo:(

Looking for an OMEN is like looking for NEMO. NEMO is the Magister
Templi, the One who has no other, one that has lost his self. Mind
less and sharkproof, one expands in infinite oceans without shores.

The object can be directed. Here an example of a transit. Sedna
squaring natal Uranus in transit and the owner of the position
gets involved in an airplane (Uranus) war. Let it be noted that
the airplanes flew one meter above the surface of the sea, thus
invisible to radars. The conflict ended almost without casualities.

Abouts:

Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac
Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu
Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39
Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html
Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno
All Objects on http://groups.google.com
Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW
Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra

/* Sedna, astrology, delineation, horoscope, 2004 DW, Quaoar,
puck.dhs.org, Oort Cloud, 2003 VB12, new planet?, Oort cloud
object, Pluto+not+planet, astrological, 12 houses, ephemeris,
NASA JPL, alt.astrology.moderated */


= 2004 DW Delienation =

Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending,
many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant!

= 2004 DW = http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Updates
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac

It seems we have a new object in astrology. While Quaoar
was delineated in Ophiucus, 2004 is in Hydra, both snaky
zodiacal constellations. Many of you have Sun in Ophiucus
but nobody in Hydra. Planets, minor planets, as well as
the ascendant are nevertheless often in Hydra, an interesting
long constellation as concerns size, depth and mythology.

Hydra ascending with 2004 DW for newborn babies shown for
various locations, 5 pm Glasgow, 17:11 Rio, 16:30 Charlotte, NC.
Various appendixes incorporated in this text, as well
as the newsgroup and our Archives explain the mysterious
facets of 28zodiac astrology while introducing new ones.
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac
© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

2004 DW in Canis Minor: Death, lost battle, ressurectiOM.
Slain god cults.

2004 DW in Orion: 1957 was a peculiar year, indeed.
Family values, new colors and sounds,
leisure, fun, atomic bomb. Sicherheit
zu Erste. Protection is the main
pO5sessiOM. Orators can be sincere.

2004 DW in Hydra: Dangerous waters! (present position).
One sleeps on sexualaurels. Lolita.
Lady Scarlet is teen!

Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending,
many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant!

2004 DW in Sextans: The Messiah. 2007 Venus in Hydra?

2004 DW in Crater: The time of the false prophets. LegislatiOM.

2004 DW in Corvus: Oberon and Puck revived in druidic England
and Syria. Dolphin cults. Inspection and
spiritual protection. The Holy Raven.

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW /ng.html

Time to discover your own position and those of your future
children and favorite tiranitoes. We will use genuine ancient
ways (stargazing) whernever it's possible to capture 2004 DW
's message, more or less messianic.

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

666 is no longer alone

2004 DW in the 6th house is the Whore of the Apocalypse.

Babalon's Progress
2004 DW off Tiamat's Back and into the Apocalypse
Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra?

Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org /2004DW
Astromajikal Delineation and Update, Mar 5th 2004.
See = Adenda = for astrological novices, curious and the expert!
© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html

Note that we dismiss it's "position in Leo" as unsensical.
Your local astronomer will, of course, agree. Your shaman
will agree. Nature agrees. Star gazing confirms. So there's
no need to pay attention to "2004 DW in Leo" gibberish.
When and if it's in Leo sometimes, we'll let you know.
It may as well be it never reaches Leo proper. Pluto never
reaches Aries or Pisces, so that would be no surprise!

Introduction for the general reader:

True Zodiac = Albeit generally assumed (?) the zodiac has
13 constellations, it has in fact 28 constellations (or 29
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac
if we split Serpens Cauda from Serpens Caput). Hydra is
not only zodiacal, but also ascendental, meaning many of
you were born with Hydra ascending (since occult is at
stake). One cannot e.g. have Aries ascending in due east.
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac

The 28zodiac has an astronomical rationale. After my own
modest research triumphing in indian summer 2003, I have
found by sheer chance a research has been conducted in
the late seventies as a couple of astronomers (NC U.S.A.
and Belgium) with the results published in popular format.
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac

The zodiac has 28 constellations, and if we exclude Pluto
as planet (something already largely proposed), it has a
convenient number of 24 (but astrlogers will use 25)
constellations. This has nothing to do with outdated
vedic calc and has everything to do with IAU.

Giant Transneptunians = objects larger than the main belt
asteroids (e.g. Eunomia or Vesta). They are usually fall
into cubewano (Varuna) or plutino (Ixion) class. The SDO
or Scattered Disk Objects are also taken into account.
Since 1992 we have discovered 800 transneptunians.

Centaurs = popular lively objects "closer" to us. Chariklo
and Hylonome are female centaurs. Among the others Cyllarus,
Thereus, Nessus, Pelion, Chiron, Elatus, Pholus, 2004 CJ39.

Extrazodiacal = A convenient term that may drop out soon
as it served it's purpose. It may even create some confusion
when Pluto is degraded as plutino. Use "28 Constellations
Zodiac" to upgrade from http://puck.dhs.org/28

Disposing of Pluto, we are left with a convenient (?) 24
constellations zodiac. In that cases constellations such
as Bootes would be called "extrazodiacal", along with Pluto's
(a.k.a. "out of bounds") "extreme" = extrazodiacal positions.

Ascendant = Eastern constellation and inorganic being (especially
head or ascended master-star). Aries cannot ascend in due east at
this time and age, but it used to at the time when Crater was an
ascendental constellation, too. http://puck.dhs.org/nu 4examples.
http://puck.dhs.org/extra for "extrazodiacal" (!:) constellations.

One note:

The "13th" constellation is Ophiucus, a large strip of the zodiac.
As the Sun spends an average of (roughly!) six days in Scorpius, it
slips by Ixion into Ophiucus to meet Quaoar, Pluto, 2002 MS4 there,
along with the Moon, Mercury, Venus and (all) other planets, as well.

For Pluto and Jupiter in Ophiucus see = Adenda = at the bottom of
this article. At the time you read this, Pluto may be moving into
Scutum (the resent position of Juno!: see Juno-minded appendix).

Have a planet in Ophiucus? Search http://groups.google.com for
"Sun in Ophiucus" or "Venus in Ophiucus" delineations. That
applies for Saturn or Venus in Orion and other 28zodiacal
poO5itions, "Venus in Hydra" including.
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac

(continued)

Whatever difficult position you may have in your nativity,
hard work benefits. Monastery discipline is needed to overcome
this object's influence. Abramelin would particulary elaborate
on it, but we have Elipinon! http://www.lava.net/~pagios

Statements like "2004 DW in Leo" have no sense. By the way,
Pluto is never in Aries or Pisces. http://puck.dhs.org/nu
Hydra is a long thing, so 2004 DW's journey through Hydra
roughly lasts 12 years. You can have Hydra ascending, of
course, in your own natal chart (but you can't have e.g.
Aries ascending). 2004 DW in Hydra roughly 1984 - 2006.

Parenting in 2007? You are not alone, either.

See also "Venus in Hydra". The site abounds with data
pointing to possible special incarnations, especially in 2007!
Parents should exercise extra timing and ritual!

It seems like the devils blow their 13th trombone
After giant Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/enter.html
we have 2004 DW. Lady Scarlet of the Apocalypse
bathes in her poisonous pool as female monsters
rise. Whoever saith antiChrist's a male?????????????
The site includes the calculations and birthright of the
antichrists. Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra?

Lady antiChrist born yet? It may well be that cynical half
jests and obscure astronomical hints nevertheless hide the
truth. Masonry knows the starry Snake crowned with the Moon.
Now when Venus approaches Hydra and the Moon brushes by...
Venus is the maiden, Hydra (the Snake) and the Moon are part
to the apocalyptical scenary. Prayers addressed to Holy Mary
will be successful, as She counters the dramatic scenary with
central return, peace and concentratiOM.

Our blood is poison to the lips of the Beast!

An object larger than Quaoar has been recently discovered.
This article will require some familiarity with the True
Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra,
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac
(Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on
it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a
centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the
centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation
use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important
objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can
use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines
to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian.

The greatest discovery after Pluto, 2004 DW receives it's
first delineation. As we had Quaoar in houses, so we have

2004 DW in Houses

The largest discovery after Pluto may be the Devil Himself
for some and Loving Guardian Angel for the rest. Such is
it's dual nature. Man has two minds and it is 2004 DW that
makes them clash asunder towards the apocalyptic End of Time.
2004 DW in Houses

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html

Among the predictable and average errors will be this object's
assignation to "tropical Leo", an unexisting and absolutely foul
preassumption of the poor mind. 2004 is not nearly in Leo, it is
in Hydra. Worse: it is not heading towards any "astrological"
constellation, as the illustrations clearly show and purporting
text discusses in some (even mythological) detail.

The other gross errors will spring from the aspects of 2004 DW.
People assume the zodiac is some kind of ring. It is a belt
made of 28 constellations (not 13). While 2004 DW may hold
http://puck.dhs.org/28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac
extrazodiacal positions (kind of tricky to check out), it
nevertheless perfectly occupies _zodiacal_ constellations,
such as Hydra, Sextans, Crater, Corvus, Orion, Aquila, to
mention some. Venus is in Orion this summer so Orion is a
zodiacal constellation. This truism will puzzle alanleist
astrologers, more than his own inabillity to calc his chart.

http://puck.dhs.org/nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar (corrections)

Some will assume a distant Sun has this or that aspect, even
conjunction with 2004 DW, while the objects will be constellations
apart. This is largely an error with stars, such as Beta Persei
or Scheat (or 2002 TX300 giant transneptunian) and a variety
(actually majority!) of objects (including some planets!) with
"out-of-bound" (bound?) positions, e.g. "extreme" (???)
declinations. First he assumes the zodiac has 12 (???) "signs"
(?????), then he assumes all planet(oid)s "glide" along the
same (fairly circular) track. Then errors spring. People


= Juno in Scutum =

#5 ananta

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http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l/astromatrix/astro$ola/

http://users.tmok.co...l/16ascendants/

Primer ko so RIBI na iztoku, program pa zračuna KOZOROG:

http://users.tmok.co...ant8l/capisces/

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Objavljeno: 30. junij 2005, 07:48

Dear Sir!

In order to continue my zodiacal research,
I'd be grateful to learn the following data:

1) When is it that Pluto enters Leo Minor?

2) When did the Moon enter Canis Minor?

I am of course aware of most of the cases
when the 28 IAU constellations become zodiacal,
from Moon in Auriga to Venus in Pegasus,

but I was unable to determine with absolute
precision when do Leo Minor or Canis Minor
become zodiacal, suposedly due to Moon or Pluto.

The program I used was SKYGLOBE. I needed a month
to determine the 26 zodiacal constellations. Then
I checked with Skychart.

In earnest,

Klaudio Zic

http://ra.95mb.com/28
True Zodiac http://www.lulu.com/zodiac True Ascendant

#7 astroMATRIX

astroMATRIX
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Objavljeno: 15. julij 2005, 13:25

Knjiga kmalu izide.

Apart from some minor considerations, the incipient astrologer can now inspect the astronomic zodiac and
true ascendants.

A section covering the times of Plato and the pharaohs with their own ascendants, e.g. ascndant Lepus, Sun in Orion, has been covered.

I'm looking forward to your visit. Wait till I cut the prices, the 108 $ was for the basic issue.

I might be co-writing with a known British author and bestseller, when it comes to old Egyptian astrology.

Klaudio Zic

iau28 /at/ yahoo.co.uk http://www.lulu.com/ra

http://www.lulu.com/zodiac http://ra.95mb.com
True Zodiac http://www.lulu.com/zodiac True Ascendant

#8 ananta

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Objavljeno: 13. oktober 2005, 12:51

AnimiRAni X Zodijak.

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