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#1901 omar

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Širše poznano kot Ne bis in idem.
Nisem pisala o tem. Mogoče nerazumljivo v prvo, probam drugič, ... vse karme ne moremo predelat v enem lajfu, torej je nekaj speče, neaktivirane, ni v planu za en lajf (zato tudi ni v chartu). Vprašanje je, ali je mišljeno vedno prejšnje življenje ali pač pretekla karma do tega življenja (z zgornjo predpostavko, da je vedno nekaj karme na čakanju)?

Nisem vedno za globoke filozofije, kadar pa že posežem, se strinjam, da je hec zraven potreben, da malo prevetri preden se kaj zaduši wink.png

O pa si, točno o tem si pisala. wink.png Vprašala si al gre za prejšnje življenje al življenja. V kontekstu točke sreče. In moj odgovor je bil, da se za isto dejanje ne more nikomur soditi dvakrat, ker namreč je točka sreče, njena pozicija in aspekti, produkt sodbe na koncu prejšnjega življenja. Ergo, v to življenje prideš že sojen in zato je duša obremenjena samo z enim, s prejšnjim življenjem. In se ti na koncu tvojega sedanjega poslanstva ne bo sodilo za stvari iz prejšnjega lajfa. 



#1902 Rožica I

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Deseta hiša zato, ker sta tu Sonce in Luna v kvadratu, izzivu, in je lastniku tazga charta dana izredna možnost ustvariti nekaj novega, najvišje možnega v življenju. Tu točka sreče ni tolk občutljiva in je z vsemi energijami obrnjena k ustvarjalnosti in doseganju osebne sreče ob uspehu, ki ga sigurno vsaj enega doživi. [/quote]


Imam točko sreče v 10.hiši- Luna in Sonce s smeri ASC sta narazen cca 38 stopinj- kako je zdaj s tem?

#1903 omar

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Dobro, da tak dobro vidiš moje misli biggrin.png
Razumem kaj ti pišeš, sama nisem tako mislila. Očitno preveč filozofije za ubesedit danes.

Mal si zmedena, pa je fajn da me maš, da ti vsaj razložim tvoje misli. tongue.png



#1904 omar

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Deseta hiša zato, ker sta tu Sonce in Luna v kvadratu, izzivu, in je lastniku tazga charta dana izredna možnost ustvariti nekaj novega, najvišje možnega v življenju. Tu točka sreče ni tolk občutljiva in je z vsemi energijami obrnjena k ustvarjalnosti in doseganju osebne sreče ob uspehu, ki ga sigurno vsaj enega doživi. [/quote]


Imam točko sreče v 10.hiši- Luna in Sonce s smeri ASC sta narazen cca 38 stopinj- kako je zdaj s tem?

Ah kako naj jst zej to povem, da bo izpadlo sprejemljivo. Tvoja fortuna je tolk v deseti hiši, da sam še rep notr moli. Pa v škorpjotu je, kjer je dispozitor v kvadratih s Soncem in Saturnom, pa v opoziciji s podvladarjem. Pa v kvadratu je z Jupitrom. Ni lih za se hvalt.

Tk da..... kak problemček najbrž mamo, a če te tolaži, najbrž par milimetrov steze uspeha si, al pa še boš okusla. Ti pa situacija daja strast, intenzivnost, zato je najbrž uspeh skozi karizmo, ki pa najbrž nikoli ne zataji. Jajca te samokritičnost, pa mogoče nekontrolirani in najbrž neopravičljivi strahovi pred neuspehom. Možnost je tudi prevelike podložnosti vplivom drugih, ki so lahko včasih tut nedobronamerni.  



#1905 Brezo

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Kdor razume vsaj osnove karme in astrologije, bi mu morale biti nekatere stvari že zdavnaj jasne...tongue.png

 

Točka sreče je skupek svega i svačega...raznorazni planetki to lahko samo potencirajo ali zavirajo...od človekove razvojne stopnje je pa odvisno v kolikšni meri...

 

Nikoli se ne predeluje karma samo za en life nazaj, ampak za vse...večina karme v posameznikovem življenju je v latentnem stanju, aktiviran je samo en majhen delček, ki se lahko šteje v tisočinkah ali milijoninkah....Po drugi strani se pa lahko tudi aktivna karma iz sedanjosti lahko da za par let ali celo več desetletij na "stand by" in se ponovno aktivira šele kasneje...

 

Iz charta, tako kot astrologi danes to povečini razumejo, se povečini lahko prebere samo s kakšno pozicijo se človeček rodi v tem lifeu...in pod kakšne vplive lahko pride...Povedano po domače lahko se ugotovi približno kao plan duše za ta life, lekcije ali vplive, ki bodo najprej prišli na vrsto...Kaj bo pa dejansko kasneje v življenju res v igri in za vse ostalo smo pa spet pri točki razvojne stopnje in pri tistemu kar klasična astrologija glih ne obravnava...Ampak če duša ta plan izpolne "predčasno" in je osebek še "mlad" potem lahko nadaljuje s planom za naslednji life in še naslednji...In če je oseba "pridna" mu ni treba čakati recimo 5 lifeov da dela kao po planu, ker lahko v enem naredi vse to. In namesto da bi v 5-ih lifeih oseba postala Buda lahko v enem. Seveda če ima vsaj malo bolj ugodno štartno pozicijo kot ostali, da se to lahko doseže. Kar pomeni da ima osebek lahko napisan tak in tak chart za 50 let naprej, v praksi bo pa lahko ta chart že zdavnaj presegel in potem pridejo na vrsto bolj stvari, ki so največ omenjene v ezoterični astrologiji in katere malo nakazuje tudi djotiš.

 

Drugače pa če hočete malo bolje razumeti "točko sreče", se najprej vprašajte po izvoru "planetarnega" in "kozmičnega" zla, ker od tega je odvisna vsa pretekla karma posameznika kot še marsičesa drugega. Nima kaj dosti veze z današnjim religijskim tolmačenjem. Potem se je pa treba vprašati kakšne veze ima Zemlja v odnosu z drugimi planetki. Ker sile zemlje imajo zelo velik vpliv na povprečnega posameznika in od tam ponavadi duhovnjaki z raznoraznimi duhovnimi tehnikami črpajo kao energijo (prano) Šele ko delujejo sile zemlje in še dveh planetkov nekako "sinhronizirano" kot enakostranični trikotniki, je možna tista prava sreča...V prevodu to lahko pomeni, da se morajo te sile tako izražati skozi človeka (mikrokozmos) ali pa skozi narod, človeštvo in posledično skozi cel planet, ki je konec koncev samo del še neke večje celote (makrokozmos). Kako to obravnava klasična astrologija presodite sami, ezoterična pa sloni ravno na temu...

 

Kdor hoče razumeti egipčansko astrologijo, se mora najprej malo seznaniti z miselnostjo tistega časa in kaj je za egipčane predstavljal Sirius in v kakšnem odnosu je ta planetek z našo "kuglo"...Na kratko povedano vsaj za silo je treba razumeti sile, ki pritekajo v naš sončni sistem iz drugih ozvezdij in kako se to izraža skozi planetke v našem sončnem sistemu...Egipčanska astrologija je v svojem bistvu zelo blizu ezoterični astrologiji...

 

Skratka za nekatere stvari boste morali še veliko naštudirati...ali pa poiskati odgovore na drugih področjih...biggrin.png


Life is like a game...play it...

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#1906 Brezo

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Točka sreče, Pars Fortunae, je najbrž najbolj važna arabska točka. Je osebna točka Lune in opisuje najbolj intimno stanje duše. Če je Sonce  naš zavedni del, če je Luna naš podzavestni del, če je Zemlja, Ascendent naše telo, oziroma lepše - polje telesa, ki predstavlja nezavestni del našega uma, potem je točka sreče celina, ki predstavlja vse te tri stvari skupaj.

 

 

Brezo, naj ti povem po domače, da ne bom okoli svega i svačega, drži se svojih procentov. V procentu si res najjači! ylflower.gif

 

Svega i svačega...Samo z drugimi besedami mišljeno in povedano podobno kot v zgornjem citatu...tongue.png


Life is like a game...play it...

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#1907 Rožica I

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Ah kako naj jst zej to povem, da bo izpadlo sprejemljivo.
Ni lih za se hvalt.
Tk da..... kak problemček najbrž mamo, a če te tolaži, najbrž par milimetrov steze uspeha si, al pa še boš okusla.


Omar, če te ne bi poznala, bi te zdajle nap...ila, da bi bil joj 😨!
Način, na kateri pišeš (v tem postu) in kot iz rokava stresaš "slabe" aspekte in še slabše komentarje zraven, niso ravno en tak zapis, po katerem bi bil človek zadovoljen, da te je sploh kaj vprašal in še manj, da je dobil take vrste odgovor 😕.
Na srečo so me ravno takšni moji "dinamični" aspekti naučili, da balast vržem preko rame, še posebej, če ni moj. Ampak poznam precej ljudi, ki dajo dosti na mnenje raznih strokovnjakov in če bi, recimo, parim od teh povedal to, kar si meni na tak način, bi jih zagotovo sesul za precej časa.
Zato te prosim, bodi bolj pazljiv in subtilen, saj imajo tvoje besede precejšnjo težo.
Drugače te je super brati in hvala za ves trud in dobro voljo 👍!

#1908 omar

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@Rožica

 

Se sicer opravičujem, če te je tekst prizadel, spravu v slabo voljo, karkoli že.... a ta točka, je proti vsem ostalim stvarem v tvojem chartu precej švoh, bi reku da celo ne tolk pomembna, da sm si pač drznil stvari tko napisat, kot sem. Naslonla si se na tekst splošnega pomena te točke v tisti hiši, ko je recimo dobro aspektirana in v dobrem odnosu z vladarji, jst sm pa sam mal preveč realno zgleda povdaru nasprotni vidik.

V bistvu nič slabega mišljeno in nikakor celotna slika o tebi. So druge, močnejše stvari v tvojem chartu, ki te determinirajo in dajejo pravo sliko tvojih lastnosti.

Drugič ti bom pač sadil rožice, če ti je to ljubše......



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Samo z drugimi besedami povedano kar sem že nakazal v preteklosti...pa mislim da ne samo jaz...biggrin.png

 

02. A UNIFICATION OF ASTROLOGY WITH ASTRONOMY AND PHYSICS
 
 
In this book you will not find multipage describes of the astrological signs. Its purpose is somewhat different. Namely – to subsume under astrology the scientific basis - the physical and astronomical. Scientists do not accidentally fall into this occult science with skepticism and distrust. And how could it be otherwise, when modern Western astrology offers as an explanation of the essence of the zodiacal influence completely illogical facts and conditions. This does not mean that it is not accurate the descriptions of zodiacal signs themselves. No, then they just close enough to the truth. But an interpretation of the reasons why the "stars" can influence a person looks completely unconvincing, and very naive.
Astrologers say that certain emanations coming from stars can influence on a person. Moreover, this effect is so significant that causes differences in the characters and the psycho-physiological characteristics of organisms of people born at different times of the year. But astrologers themselves realize that stars as sources of electromagnetic radiation (photons) are too weak and very far from us, that this radiation can not be taken into account. So this question it is accepted to neatly hush up and sidestep as an acceptable scientific explanation has not yet been proposed.
Here and there - astronomy and physics are separately, and astrology is separately from them. Scientists laugh and do not recognize it for science. Astrologers stoically withstand criticism often not paying attention to it and continue to believe the tenets of their teaching.
But it can not continue further. Both sides lose more due to the lack of association of both areas of human knowledge. The truth, as always lies in the middle. Astronomy and physics can learn a lot of valuable information from the analysis of the astrological postulates. Astrology, in turn, is in dire need of a scientific basis, which will turn it from a mythological discipline into the academic.
Astrology, without scientific evidence is recognized and used by most people in the world. If we rationalize the meaning of its effects, then it'll get a powerful reinforcement in the face of figures of official science.
Synthesis of science and occultism is needed, and for that we are here and write this book.
Let’s get down.
 
 
03. COMPARISION OF ASTRONOMY AND ASTROLOGY. WHY DO ASTROLOGERS NEED THE ZODIAC CONSTELLATIONS?
 
Let we make a brief comparison between astrology and astronomy.
Astrology like astronomy is interested by the position "in the sky" (on the firmament) of the Sun, planets and other celestial bodies.
 Astrologers say about some "stellar influences" to explain existence of psycho-physiological types of people and argue that these influences determine the features of human behavior.
 But astronomers (and primarily astrobiologists) if and bind a functioning of human organisms with the influence of the heavenly bodies it is only with the influence of one of them - the Sun. And under the "influence of the Sun" they mean an impact of solar radiation on the processes occurring in the world including the processes that occur in human bodies.
 Astrologers are not interested in any constellations apart of the zodiacal, while astronomers pay attention to all constellations.
 Also astrology uses a classification system of 4 elements that ancient Greeks used to describe and enumerate the basic elements of the universe. In astronomy of course such classification does not exist. And we’ll try to explain why not.
It is surprising but that astrology gives us very valuable information about the structure of the universe.
Initially it directs at reflexions the attention that is paid in astrology the zodiacal circle as well as a three-fold repetition in the zodiacal circle of each of the four elements. And this repetition does not occur in random order. Between each of two identical elements all other three elements are arranged and their order strictly repeated. For example, in the zodiacal circle there are three constellations related to the element "Earth". Between each two constellations of element "Earth" the constellation of three other elements are located. At the same time they are always placed in the same order: after "Earth" should be "Fire", then "Water", then "Air" and nothing else.
 Thus, in the zodiacal circle we can observe a strict sequence of location of the elements:
Earth, Fire, Water, Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Air.
Virgo, Leo, Cancer, Gemini, Taurus, Aries, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Libra.
If you follow it clockwise (but it is the way it should follow in the future, we will explain why).
Astrology originated in ancient times. And in the case of any other science the Teachers of the Ageless Wisdom help people to create it. Or rather it was created by the Teachers and then telepathically transmitted in the form of mental images to the people who were most susceptible to their spiritual touch.
In ancient times there were neither telescopes nor metric systems. Therefore, to estimate distances on a cosmic scale ancient astrologers used not meters, kilometers or light years like it is now. This purpose it served the classification of 4 elements.
 The zodiacal constellations themselves on Earth and on any other celestial body of our solar system have virtually no influence. The distance between us and the constellations are too large to celestial bodies of the constellations or the celestial bodies of our solar system could "feel" an impact of Attraction Fields each other. And streams of elementary particles emitted by the stars are too quickly absorbed by the space environment to somehow affect (to heat) celestial bodies that are part of another solar system. Therefore, in reality the zodiacal constellations - it is nothing like a milestone indicating the position of the Earth and other planets on the solar orbit. Projection on the zodiacal constellations gives accurate information about where on the solar orbits is one or another planet. 



04. FUNDAMENTALS OF EASTERN TEACHING ABOUT THE CHAKRAS
 
The human body is not just a physical body. This is an amazing synthesis of different plans of the universe. Only a dense body we can see by usual vision. However, it is surrounded and saturated by particles of fine, sparse shells. We do not see them when we are in the "normal" state. And only a transition into an altered state sometimes gives such opportunity.
There are 7 Plans, six simple and one complex. And all they can be presented within a human body. Usually only bodies of Mahatmas (Great Souls in Sanskrit) combine the maximum number of plans. In the body of ordinary human no more than four coexist - Physical, Astral, Mental and Buddhic.
Each plan has levels - lower, middle, upper.
Particles of the Physical Plan are grouped into the smallest conglomerates - chemical elements. The closer to the core of a chemical element, the lower is sublevel of the Plan, the farther - the higher. As part of each sub-level there are particles as Yin and Yang.
Any chemical element can be destroyed and cease to exist as a whole entity. Externally such destruction manifests as radioactivity.
But usually the particles from the nucleus do not leave the chemical element. However, this occurs with peripheral constantly. They are released emitting as heat and light, passing from one element to another. This process takes place continuously and at this very moment too in all the bodies around you, and in yours too. Particles of upper sublevels of the Physical Plan easily circulate in the universe.
 Thus, each chemical element - is that on the East is called chakra. The faster the chakra gives and receives particles, the more is the speed of such transmission of energy, the higher the level of its "openness" - the more it is opened, speaking the language of occultism.
A chemical element - this is the simplest version of the chakras. There are many variations of them. In the human body there are many. The higher the plan is the bigger and lager scale they become.
Another name for them is energy centers.
Astral Plane particles are concentrated in the nucleus of every cell and around it – they surround DNA. Totally they form the astral body of the organism.
The particles of the Astral Plan are in constant motion and an interchange with the outside world. They take in their community the particles from outside. And also, in their turn, they leave this conglomerate of particles going outside, somewhere else.
We can assume that the core of each cell on the subtle levels represents an energy power center - a whirlwind of moving particles surrounding the nucleus. In other words, it is the same chakra, but of a different scale. The next step on the evolutionary ladder of development. A vessel of life that contains information about the cell and communicating with the outside world.
Starting from the Mental Plan, the chakras are located is relatively nerve plexus and endocrine glands of the body - are saturated, envelop it and nourish them. Each chakra - it can be said, a "place of attaching" of the Mental body of a certain level, one of the mental shell. Particles of this Plan form cycles in the body in thin areas. Mental chakra like astral provide a communication of the mental body in the composition of this organism with the environment. In this they resemble the astral chakras, and not only - the chakra of any other plan.
Do not forget that each particle is a source of information, its carrier.
A mental human body is a self-conscious entity that purposefully absorbs particles from the outside world of the same plan in general, and gives the same from itself into external environment. We say "in general" because the chakra absorbs the particles and other plans. The decisive factor here is features of information recorded on these particles. Just generally, on the Earth there is still a specialty of Plans – i.e. each of them is a bearer of a certain type of information. There is the mineral kingdom, the vegetable, animal, human and superhuman.
 Chakras communicate with the body through the nervous system, through the transmission of nerve impulses. It is a faster, but also a more fleeting way. There is still a humoral - impact on the body's metabolism by synthesizing special chemicals - hormones, which carry information about this subtle body - this chakra.
The closer such energy center is to the head, the higher is the level of the Mental Plane of its constituent particles.
Do you remember that all plans are divided into levels? This is natural. So there was a process of evolution. Initially the lower joined, then the upper. It's always in the universe.
Exactly the same separate, independent entity is the body of the Buddhic Plan. What we call our soul, our "I". It saturates, envelops and nourishes the upper parts of the brain corresponding to the cortex. The chakra of the Buddhi-shell is situated about the place where there is the pineal gland. Thanks to epiphysis the human soul can affect the body by the humoral way, with the help of hormones. This method is the most durable and stable compared with the sending of nerve impulses.
As it is amazing! Nothing is constant. Our physical body is all the time updating its consist. Food enters through the mouth, is digested, and then molecules are destroyed in the course of respiration and are output through the lungs in the form of carbon dioxide and water.
And other shells that are the part of our body - thin - also represent channels, absorbing and emitting particles.
Although everything is not so easy. Chakras can be open or closed. The opened even as represent the channels - they exchange the particles with the environment. But closed chakras "stew in their own juice". They have little communication with the outside world and they have a constant composition of the particles. However, there are not absolutely closed centers. Any of us represents an "energy pipe" - even if it has a very low rate of flow.
As already mentioned, thin bodies absorb and emit the particles selectively – i.e. able to control the quality and quantity of energy passing through them.
Now, we hope you at least have a little idea how multifaceted, complex and complex creature is a man.
So many kinds of shells - ethereal, astral, mental, buddhic are combined in us. And superhumans also have atmic and monadic. How many different types of energy any individual can radiate – different and qualitatively and quantitatively. Let you not confuse by the word "energy". An individual radiates desires, emotions, thoughts, ideas and images. Each plan has its own specifics of emitted and absorbed energy.
There are thought-flows of different quality and information content. And you can feel them - as they pass through you. Thoughts pass through the head (for the higher levels of the mental) or ideas (for saturating of the Soul). Primitive feelings and emotions (for the lower levels of the mental and higher astral plan) go through the nerve centers and plexus below the head. So there is a saturation of thin shells.
Chakras are the sense organs. With their help we get information from the outside world, from the subtle plans. The known for us sense organs tell us information about the Physical Plan - vision, hearing, taste, smell and touch. A chakras carry information from the astral, mental and buddhic Plans.
The Universe, our God wants the particles everywhere interacted with each other, freely penetrated into every corner of the space. In order to there were no obstacles to the free flow of energy. In order to there were no congestion and blocks. This is love in action. All is combined, all is one, and there are no separate locations. The main purpose of the Creator for this Mahamanvantara - to make so that energy (spirit) from the sixth of the bottom and to the second of the top, of the monadic, Higher Plan, reaches without distortion to the lowest, physical. And moreover it should happen everywhere in the universe. Currently this is not yet observed. Plans are still very segmental. It is necessary that the energy – information of the Higher Plan will became the guiding principle for ABSOLUTELY all Plans. Then there will be peace in the universe, harmony, beauty, love. It is necessary that the God, the Silent Witness, as it is called, felt that information of the highest Plan is dissolved in the lowest, and not distorted by any "impurities". It is need that the highest Plan, the Spirit, has teamed up with the lower, with the Matter. The Highest Plan does not carry the seeds of evil – it is deprived of all that murderous and heinous that we can see here, in the realm of dense matter. This means that this Plan's the most clean and bright. Energy emitted by its particles bears only love and light.
We hope now do you start catching intention of the Creator? It’s to combine all the plans, and to make everything as a single organism. Everywhere there is only light, love and beauty.
 
 
05. ASTROLOGICAL INFLUENCE IS SECONDARY – THE STARS SUPPOSE, BUT DO NOT FORCE
 
Our bodies are under constant influence from the particles emitted by celestial bodies. Changing the location of our planet on orbit around the Sun, as well as projections of the planets of the solar system on the Nuclei (we speak about three giant celestial bodies, read further) and passing by the planets through them streams of particles emitted by these Nuclei, and thus having an impact on the quality of the radiation, all of this together creates in the atmosphere of our Earth a certain energy background. In different seasons, at different position of the sun and planets in the sky the quality of energy (electromagnetic, electric) field of the planet changes. And we all feel it by ourselves. And our bodies adapt. Hence differences in psycho physiological characteristics of people. Nuclei of the galaxy, Super galaxy and the Central Body affect us. Anyhow - because our star is generated by them, and their own part.
However astrological influences are still secondary. They create the preconditions for the development of the energy centers of our bodies. But we can not fully explain human nature and all that happens to it only by this impact. Professional astronomers have understood it long ago and do not risk to give hundred percent forecasts, using the well-known phrase - "Stars suppose, but do not force". Physiological characteristics of a person are subject to the individual himself. And it’s necessary to start, first, on the hereditary information, that influences on the structure and development of the physical and astral bodies. A child grows and it occurs in a particular environment. Every moment hundreds and thousands of all kinds of external influences leave their marks on his (her) thin bodies, making changes. And the mental shell and the body of the soul are continually transformed. External visible and invisible effects can so cardinally affect a person in the course of his life, that he would be totally different from his parents. Not only internally, but even externally.
So when in the future you will read with delight the horoscope, and will be based on these projections your life, remember that you are primarily the owners and masters of your destiny. And it's not an allegation. "Stars" affect. But do not govern. They create the background, mood. But the main tuner of your life is you.
Currently astrology has become for many something like religion. The tool for studying the lives and characters. Many people, after reading a lot (or not) books on astrology, look at others and think that knowing their zodiac signs, can fully explain all their properties and features.
Believe us, it is not.
Percentage of accuracy of astrological predictions depends on many factors. We can trace it to the following regularities.
The more spiritually a person is developed, the less suitable for him descriptions of astrologers become, quite accurate for other people with the less open upper chakras. More can be said that in general, the younger is the person, the better fit for him horoscopes and forecasts compiled for some zodiacal sign to the total mass of the people. With age most often there are observed deviations from prescribed standards. Although during the aging of the organism one or another rollback to a previous state may occur, as the wear of the body reduces the openness of chakras. But this is not an absolute rule.  
Likewise, you can develop and lower chakras. You can make healthy the weak body, strengthen by hardening.
The person can cardinally metamorphose the character and the body during the life, completely change the astrological prerequisites obtained at birth. Fully disclose all chakras. And no one can say with certainty what is his (her) zodiacal sign.
Astrology is intended not to enslave the human with the help of imposed standards of behavior supposedly relevant the zodiacal constellation. Its mission is to help you to understand the basics, received at birth. In order that the person will know in which direction he should develop, and what gaps eliminate. Do not forget that the goal of any is the harmonious development of all the chakras. But in this case, the development of higher is a special value. Because without them man is not a man – i.e. not a highly moral, intellectual and spiritual being. icon_smesko.gif

Life is like a game...play it...

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#1910 Rožica I

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Ah Omar, sem pomislila, da misliš res- dokler nisem prebrala tisto o sajenju rožic..
Super te je brat, ponavljam, vendar prizvok razočaranja in nezadovoljstva (ali česarkoli že podobnega) kar puhti iz tvojih besed (vsaj meni se tako zdi).
Oz na moje vprašanje si odgovoril, kot užaljen učitelj, katerega je učenec zgolj iz radovednosti nekaj vprašal in mu nehote zamajal teorijo, učitelj pa je namesto, da bi bil vesel učenčevega interesa, najprej izbruhnil nad učencem, potem mu pa dal še šus..

Predvsem pa glede determiniranosti- (seveda sem totalni laik v astrologiji)- ampak ves čas berem, da v bistvu so dane le različne možnosti- od tega, da so kvadrati izzivi in nosilci akcije in ne nepremostljive ovire, do tega, da smo sami akterji in ustvarjalci svoje življenjske poti (oz vsaj delno) in da determiniranost ni ključna.
Tudi ne bi želela živeti z mislijo, da smo determinirani- ne, hvala. Ti pa, seveda, komot gledaš na ljudi kot na determinirane, vendar, po moje, s tem ožiš in omejuješ svoj stališčni spekter. Skratka vsak ima možnost nekaj narediti iz materiala, ki ga je dobil- če le verjame v to in če le želi kaj narediti. Jaz verjamem in vem, da je še zmeraj dosti moči in odločitev v mojih rokah 🌞.

#1911 Rožica I

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Zato je mene minilo gledati charte. Pogledam samo še, če dobro plačajo. :) Takrat pa računajo na to, da bodo slišali kaj, kar jim ne paše. :) 


Ne vem, če je v mojem primeru ravno tako. Celo trdim, da daleč od tega. Prav potrebo imam slišati in videti stvari/dejstva takšna kot so (sicer jih potem opazujem iz perspektive rožnatih očal, ampak to je druga tema 😉)- vendar ker poznam Omarja, poznam tudi njegov priljuden način, ki ga uporablja, če želi.
In če ti nekdo, ki ga smatraš za veliko astrološko avtoriteto, odgovori v smislu, da par cm uspeha boš pa mogoče le dosegla v lifu- potem predvidevam, da ali
1. ne razume pojma uspeh (oz ga zelo ozko definira)
2. izhaja iz lastnega razočaranega pogleda nad svetom in življenjem nasploh
3. se sam počuti determiniranega
4. etc..

Skratka, vsekakor pa menim, da ste astrologi vse premalo cenjeni in plačani.

#1912 Silvija

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Ti si taka, sladka budala, o Brezo flirt.gif

 

Tega seveda ne mislim resno. 

Kaj ne misliš resno? Da je budala ali da sladka? laugh.png laugh.png laugh.png



#1913 omar

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Oz na moje vprašanje si odgovoril, kot užaljen učitelj, katerega je učenec zgolj iz radovednosti nekaj vprašal in mu nehote zamajal teorijo, učitelj pa je namesto, da bi bil vesel učenčevega interesa, najprej izbruhnil nad učencem, potem mu pa dal še šus..

 

 

 

Ne vem, če je v mojem primeru ravno tako. Celo trdim, da daleč od tega. Prav potrebo imam slišati in videti stvari/dejstva takšna kot so (sicer jih potem opazujem iz perspektive rožnatih očal, ampak to je druga tema )- vendar ker poznam Omarja, poznam tudi njegov priljuden način, ki ga uporablja, če želi.
In če ti nekdo, ki ga smatraš za veliko astrološko avtoriteto, odgovori v smislu, da par cm uspeha boš pa mogoče le dosegla v lifu- potem predvidevam, da ali
1. ne razume pojma uspeh (oz ga zelo ozko definira)
2. izhaja iz lastnega razočaranega pogleda nad svetom in življenjem nasploh
3. se sam počuti determiniranega
4. etc..

Skratka, vsekakor pa menim, da ste astrologi vse premalo cenjeni in plačani.

Kakšno mojo teorijo si ti meni zamajala? A to, da je točka sreče močna v deseti hiši? No, nisi. Če bi se mal poglobila v branje, bi ugotovila, da sm nekje tam gor napisal odgovor U-poštevanki, da je to splošna astrološka teorija, s katero ni nujno da se strinjam. Da celo osebno smatram pozicijo v deveti hiši za dost boljšo. 

Back to you, podala si pozicijo tvoje točke sreče, in vprašanje kako je zej s tem. In sm ti napisal kako je s tem glede tvoje točke sreče. Kar je sicer samo en od miljon vplivov v tvojem chartu. Kar je samo eden od številnih dejavnikov v tvoji deseti hiši. O katerih pa seveda nism pisal, ker o tem nismo debatirali, ker ne bom tratu mojega časa da bi ti tu na forumu delal neke obsežne analize sam zato, ker se je tebi zazdelo, da bi jih moral. Odgovoril sem ti kratko in povedal tisto, kar dejansko v tvojem chartu glede točke sreče je. Če si pa želiš česa drugega, se boš morala na koga druzga obrnit, da ti vse skupaj mal premeče in nastavi tako, da boš zadovoljna. Interpretiram kar vidim, ne pa kar si ti želiš da bi bilo.

Predvsem pa.... če je debata o kapljicah vode, to ne pomeni avtomatsko debate o oceanu!!!



#1914 čebelica01

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Zelo dober opis škorpijonov, če koga zanima 

http://idealist4ever...ving-a-scorpio/

 

jaz se v temu ogromno vidim, pa nisem škorpijonka. 



#1915 Rožica I

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Kakšno mojo teorijo si ti meni zamajala...

Zgrešil si point- govorim ti o odnosu, ki ga imaš do ljudi, v tem primeru pač do mene.
Ker očitno nisva sposobna konstruktivne debate- tukaj zaključujem vsako svoje debatiranje na tej temi.

#1916 omar

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Zgrešil si point- govorim ti o odnosu, ki ga imaš do ljudi, v tem primeru pač do mene.
Ker očitno nisva sposobna konstruktivne debate- tukaj zaključujem vsako svoje debatiranje na tej temi.

tongue.png  Ker konstruktivna debata s tabo zgleda tako, da ti mora nekdo narest vse tisto kar si ti zmisliš in to tako, kot paša tebi...... Se pa ne spomnim da bi kdaj iz številnih tvojih vprašanj meni sledil vsaj kak hvala.....



#1917 Malina75

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To je dobra ideja, res prihodnost članek beremo nekaj časa in včasih njeno nasprotje o tej temi!

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#1918 konjiček

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Pozdravljeni !

 

Nisem zasledila nič oz zelo malo o neaspektiranih planetih, zato upam, da dobim tukaj kakšen nasvet ali link wink.png

Zadnja leta (5 let recimo ), spoznavam samo moške, ki imajo luno v natalni karti, brez aspekta. Takšni me pritegnejo...vedno.

Zakaj le ? A so sploh sposobni ljubiti, če njihova luna ne tvori aspektov...


To temo je popravil/a konjiček: 18. februar 2017, 09:37


#1919 Pinka

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Pozdravljeni !

 

Nisem zasledila nič oz zelo malo o neaspektiranih planetih, zato upam, da dobim tukaj kakšen nasvet ali link wink.png

Zadnja leta (5 let recimo ), spoznavam samo moške, ki imajo luno v natalni karti, brez aspekta. Takšni me pritegnejo...vedno.

Zakaj le ? A so sploh sposobni ljubiti, če njihova luna ne tvori aspektov...

Si prepričana, da je popolnoma brez aspektov, kaj pa polsekstili, inkonjukcije, široke konjukcije itd. Neaspektiranost lahko govori o dveh ekstremih ali si ful čustven ali pa zelo zaprt. 

Npr neki z neta 

Unaspected Moon: interpretation

The Moon's main characteristics are reactivity, passivity, emotionalism, and the propensity to dream one's life rather that to live it concretely. When the Moon is unaspected in a chart, the person periodically expresses himself without restraint or shut himself away in his inner world. Like an overly sensitive radar, he becomes alternately utterly vulnerable to fleeting impressions or to stimuli that are hardly perceptible to people, or he displays no reaction, as if he had grown indifferent to his environment.

 

 

Sicer pa vsak je sposoben ljubiti, pa če ma aspektirano luno ali ne. Tukaj se je bolj za vprašat ali kateri tvoj planet aspektira njegovo luno.


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

#1920 konjiček

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Si prepričana, da je popolnoma brez aspektov, kaj pa polsekstili, inkonjukcije, široke konjukcije itd. Neaspektiranost lahko govori o dveh ekstremih ali si ful čustven ali pa zelo zaprt. 

Npr neki z neta 

Unaspected Moon: interpretation

The Moon's main characteristics are reactivity, passivity, emotionalism, and the propensity to dream one's life rather that to live it concretely. When the Moon is unaspected in a chart, the person periodically expresses himself without restraint or shut himself away in his inner world. Like an overly sensitive radar, he becomes alternately utterly vulnerable to fleeting impressions or to stimuli that are hardly perceptible to people, or he displays no reaction, as if he had grown indifferent to his environment.

 

 

Sicer pa vsak je sposoben ljubiti, pa če ma aspektirano luno ali ne. Tukaj se je bolj za vprašat ali kateri tvoj planet aspektira njegovo luno.

 Hvala, Pinka. V bistvu bi rekla ful hladen. Tak moški potem res ni sposoben neke ljubezni.






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