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[Marsa]

Ti, kul se tole slisi, Intruder...
Sploh, ker imam KONCNO!!! nekaj v Tehtnici - zdaj se bom torej koncno skulirala malo (malo morgensen) ))))

Marsa

Cas ni ovira, temvec sredstvo za uresnicitev moznega. I CHING

[intruder]

Preveril nove parametre. Buddha she vedno Quaoar 28 sco. Nimam probleme. Namrech spremenili so se parametrji. Nove efemeride: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/ephe.new/ Preveril 1776 (U.S.A.), Casanova,
Krist (-7), Buddha; vse v redu. Che je napak niso velike. Asteroidi spreminjajo parametre ko vemo vech.
Temu pravimo update. Denimo Ceres ni tamo kjer ga vidi astroloshki program star 30 let.

Claudio Valentin Solis

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http://207.88.74.110...list/index.html

Claudio Valentin Solis

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Update. Vechina transneptuna ima delineacije in je seveda v uporabi na puck.dhs.org

Record # Epoch-yr Primary Desig Name H
-------- -------- ------------- ------------------------- -----
1 2000 (undefined) Ceres 3.34
2 2001 (undefined) Pallas 4.13
4 2000 (undefined) Vesta 3.20
19308 2002 1996 TO66 [...unnamed...] 4.50
19521 2002 1998 WH24 Chaos 4.90
20000 2002 2000 WR106 Varuna 3.70
24835 2002 1995 SM55 [...unnamed...] 4.80
26375 2002 1999 DE9 [...unnamed...] 4.70
28978 2002 2001 KX76 Ixion 3.20
38628 2002 2000 EB173 [...unnamed...] 4.70
42301 2002 2001 UR163 [...unnamed...] 4.20
47171 2002 1999 TC36 [...unnamed...] 4.90
50000 2002 2002 LM60 Quaoar 2.60
101512 2002 2002 AW197 [...unnamed...] 3.20
101879 2002 2002 KX14 [...unnamed...] 4.70
131702 2002 2002 TX300 [...unnamed...] 3.10
144024 2002 2002 CY248 [...unnamed...] 4.90
158038 2002 2002 UX25 [...unnamed...] 3.30
158062 2002 2002 TC302 [...unnamed...] 3.40
167191 2002 2001 QF298 [...unnamed...] 4.70
167213 2002 2001 UQ18 [...unnamed...] 4.90
200050 2002 2002 VE95 [...unnamed...] 4.20


Claudio Valentin Solis

[intruder]

Ni she jasno kdaj je bil nedeljski napad na Basro. Che je to 11 am lokalno, Quaoar je v 10ti hishi. Prve delineacije za Quaoar so bile prav v svezi s vojno, neoptimistichne, seveda.

[intruder]

Za analize napada (new jihad) porabimo Phaethon = letenje (padel v eridanus (to je tudi ozvezdje),, Icarus = pad, Varuna = jihad, Ixion = anti global; Claudio http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck

[intruder]

http://groups.google.....&q=quaoar+war

Quaoar namreč (žal) napoveda vojno!

http://groups.google...ogle.com&rnum=1

[intruder]

http://puck.dhs.org/....1/00000028.GIF

Lunacija s Quaoar:

[intruder]

Novi gigantski transneptun (ta hip!) v konjunkciji s Quaoar (in Nova Scorpii chrno luknjo) na 13 strelca.


Objekt je na 13 Strijelca.

http://www.lunin.net

Posebne zahvale asteroid.lowell.edu NASA JPL staff Korado Korlevic



2002 MP4 I.C.

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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 06:17:50

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http://puck.dhs.org/...on/lunation.gif

With Varuna M.C: hope is that after Basra there's no jihad.

http://puck.dhs.org/....1/00000028.GIF

It is unclear to me if the attack was 11 am local time, if so, Quaoar
would be M.C.

Claudio http://puck.dhs.org
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Novi gigant 2002 GV31 in update za najvechje asteroide (vechinoma transneptunerje):


Record # Epoch-yr Primary Desig Name H
-------- -------- ------------- ------------------------- -----
1 2000 (undefined) Ceres 3.34
2 2001 (undefined) Pallas 4.13
3 1978 (undefined) Juno 5.33
4 2000 (undefined) Vesta 3.20
10 1994 (undefined) Hygiea 5.43
15 1993 (undefined) Eunomia 5.16
15874 2002 1996 TL66 [...unnamed...] 5.40
19308 2002 1996 TO66 [...unnamed...] 4.50
19521 2002 1998 WH24 Chaos 4.90
20000 2002 2000 WR106 Varuna 3.70
24835 2002 1995 SM55 [...unnamed...] 4.80
26181 2002 1996 GQ21 [...unnamed...] 5.20
26375 2002 1999 DE9 [...unnamed...] 4.70
28978 2002 2001 KX76 Ixion 3.20
38628 2002 2000 EB173 [...unnamed...] 4.70
42301 2002 2001 UR163 [...unnamed...] 4.20
47171 2002 1999 TC36 [...unnamed...] 4.90
48639 2002 1995 TL8 [...unnamed...] 5.40
50000 2002 2002 LM60 Quaoar 2.60
100182 2002 2002 MS4 [...unnamed...] 4.10
100448 2002 2001 CZ31 [...unnamed...] 5.30
101512 2002 2002 AW197 [...unnamed...] 3.20
101879 2002 2002 KX14 [...unnamed...] 4.70
102943 2002 1997 CS29 [...unnamed...] 5.20
103874 2002 2000 YW134 [...unnamed...] 5.10
123187 2002 2000 CJ105 [...unnamed...] 5.40
123191 2002 2000 CN105 [...unnamed...] 5.00
123192 2002 2000 CO105 [...unnamed...] 5.40
126291 2002 1999 CD158 [...unnamed...] 5.10
127042 2002 2002 PJ149 [...unnamed...] 5.30
127210 2002 2002 PQ145 [...unnamed...] 5.40
131702 2002 2002 TX300 [...unnamed...] 3.10
143978 2002 2001 YH140 [...unnamed...] 5.10
144024 2002 2002 CY248 [...unnamed...] 4.90
158038 2002 2002 UX25 [...unnamed...] 3.30
158062 2002 2002 TC302 [...unnamed...] 3.40
158340 2002 2001 KA77 [...unnamed...] 5.00
167179 2002 2001 QT297 [...unnamed...] 5.30
167184 2002 2001 QY297 [...unnamed...] 5.30
167191 2002 2001 QF298 [...unnamed...] 4.70
167197 2002 2001 QS322 [...unnamed...] 5.40
167213 2002 2001 UQ18 [...unnamed...] 4.90
192106 2002 2002 GV31 [...unnamed...] 5.30
200050 2002 2002 VE95 [...unnamed...] 4.20



Claudio Valentin Solis

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Quaoar za Krista je 25 Tehtnice

Geocentric Angular Ecliptic Coordinates
True Equinox of Date (Corrected for Aberr. & L-time)

Date: -7/ 9/16 UT : 0: 0: 0

0 Sun 170 38 43.23 - 0 0 0.45 0.99603367
1 Mercury 186 4 33.21 - 0 40 31.55 1.34309366
2 Venus 140 25 46.41 + 1 4 10.23 1.37407837
4 Mars 118 12 3.68 + 1 13 57.62 2.04592994
5 Jupiter 308 42 59.71 - 1 23 53.27 4.20266467
6 Saturn 334 20 8.98 - 2 27 53.80 8.44715428
7 Uranus 329 5 14.27 - 0 48 32.05 19.14118478
8 Neptune 211 14 39.35 + 1 51 36.44 31.07126859
9 Pluto 157 52 2.66 +16 7 8.54 31.88030786
10 Moon 310 58 39.41 - 5 1 33.46 0.40387003 (Gm)
11 Ceres 209 34 47.2 + 5 46 1.1 3.6168244
12 Pallas 165 42 11.5 - 2 36 43.4 3.0579594
13 Vesta 273 17 28.4 - 3 9 24.3 1.9369729
14 Quaoar 205 20 29.2 + 5 45 46.2 44.7036196


Date: -7/ 9/17 UT : 0: 0: 0

0 Sun 171 38 19.11 - 0 0 0.45 0.99573666
1 Mercury 187 34 39.98 - 0 47 29.76 1.33486637
2 Venus 141 39 17.91 + 1 6 16.51 1.37932131
4 Mars 118 47 47.48 + 1 14 38.84 2.03879112
5 Jupiter 308 39 5.83 - 1 23 45.66 4.21332132
6 Saturn 334 15 45.10 - 2 27 51.56 8.45193926
7 Uranus 329 3 3.59 - 0 48 31.07 19.14786343
8 Neptune 211 16 28.81 + 1 51 33.94 31.08208184
9 Pluto 157 54 18.23 +16 7 17.79 31.87581405
10 Moon 322 55 0.45 - 5 3 15.26 0.40546058 (Gm)
11 Ceres 209 57 1.0 + 5 43 53.7 3.6259221
12 Pallas 166 13 50.8 - 2 29 19.0 3.0598865
13 Vesta 273 30 0.1 - 3 10 27.3 1.9501914
14 Quaoar 205 21 48.0 + 5 45 43.0 44.7129005


Date: -7/ 9/18 UT : 0: 0: 0

0 Sun 172 37 56.92 - 0 0 0.43 0.99544192
1 Mercury 189 4 4.51 - 0 54 25.95 1.32616711
2 Venus 142 52 53.32 + 1 8 18.79 1.38452525
4 Mars 119 23 27.67 + 1 15 20.19 2.03159715
5 Jupiter 308 35 22.93 - 1 23 37.81 4.22418813
6 Saturn 334 11 23.66 - 2 27 49.01 8.45701765
7 Uranus 329 0 54.20 - 0 48 30.05 19.15482296
8 Neptune 211 18 19.40 + 1 51 31.49 31.09267447
9 Pluto 157 56 33.32 +16 7 27.54 31.87105554
10 Moon 334 48 15.63 - 4 51 46.50 0.40626333 (Gm)
11 Ceres 210 19 18.0 + 5 41 47.4 3.6349051
12 Pallas 166 45 25.7 - 2 21 55.3 3.0617219
13 Vesta 273 42 49.9 - 3 11 28.9 1.9634487
14 Quaoar 205 23 7.4 + 5 45 39.9 44.7219415


Claudio Valentin Solis

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Copyright © 2003 Klaudio Zic, vse pravice pridrzhane.

Kaj je novega?

Uspelo nam je transneptune (ti giganti prevzemajo vlogo Ceres,
Vesta-e in Pallas) izrachunati za shpon let -4500 4500, torej
`integrirati' zelo precizno nove (`stabilne') objekte kot so
to gigant Quaoar. Seveda lahko izrachunamo tudi ta glavne (in
she druge) kentavrje.

Gre se za to da NASA nima take mozhnosti, pa seveda niti Swiss
Ephemeris. Torej izrachuni na lunin.net za Buddha-o pa Jezusa
so kar planetarni unikat.

To je zelo dobro, pomeni da smo she vedno pacemakerji po Dark
Planets; Varuna in Ixionu. Eni transneptunerji so si dodatno
popestrili delineaciju (opis), pa she seveda niso niti experimentalno
v kakshnem programu (to se she bo razvilo), in se pravzaprav
nobeden niti ne zaveda njih. Che je nekaj tako veliko kot Quaoar
se _morash_ zavedati. Che je vechje kot Vesta ja valjda to vzamesh
v oziro. Vsaj tlele mislimo vnaprej.

Nekaj novega v 2003 bo O5 trening in chist malo masonerije in
kristijanske alternative. Gremo na sveto sexualno varijanto in
Quaoar je zraven. Napisi so zhe, idej ne zmanjka, servisa in
fotografij iz Benetk bo; raziskovali bomo sexualno alkemijo;
ta je pa zastopljena za vsakim vogalom na Benetkah.

Nekaj novih simulacij (saj je zhe tega prevech, brishem 100 po
100 Mb) za Lilith je zanimivo pa she tega bo. Luna gre naprej!

Klavdij

Holistichki horoskopi, O5 techaji. t8@puck.dhs.org http://puck.dhs.org

RESURSE
======= http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar /reports1 /reports /dance.1

Seveda imaste Nessus Pholus in Chariklo v vashemu horoskopu.
Kaj pa Ixion Varuna in Chaos? In predvsem najvechega! QUAOAR.

Quaoar je novi objekt velik kot _vsi_ asteroidi skupaj! To je
najvechje odkritje po Plutonu kjer se obetajo nova she vechja!
Na tem prostoru lahko izvedete za novice in spremembe, kakor
tudi za nove kandidate za planete.

Slovenski bi lahko bil prvi jezik na katerem se bojo objavile
karakteristike novih astroloshkih objektov, kjere zaenkrat opisujem
standardno v angleshchini. Objave so za celo planeto na USENET grupi
news:alt.astrology.moderated http://groups.google.com za Slovenijo
so to http://www.lunin.net http://najdi.si http://puck.dhs.org/lunin.net
news://news.uni-mb.si/soc.culture.slovenia
Za primorce pa magar she: news://twister1.tin.it/tin.it.hobby.astrologia
news://news.rlc.net/ines.paranormalno (slovenia)
Ta povezava bo mogoche delovala. ines.paranormalno je stara grupa
verjetno zhe od cajta BBS-eva. Slovenci s(m)o je zapustili, v Italiji
se she drzhi (ishchi www.dogpile.com) knp nettuno.it
news://news.rlc.net/ines.paranormalno (slovenia)
news://news.mt.net.mk/mk.alt.astrologija (macedonia)
http://puck.dhs.org/reports http://puck.dhs.org/reports1
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An article by Klaudio Zic

= 2002 MS4 Transneptune: Keywords =

This article is © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
Quaoar HQ http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org

The main idea of 2002 MS4 seems to be doing things on the spur of
the moment. However, this needs an explanation. How do events happen?

One could use physics or karma to elaborate an explanation. The
sort of event marked by 2002 MS4 happens spontaneousely and _yet_
it is a product of an elaborate series of events, proper timing,
decisions made on the spur of the moment, rather wise decisions,
I must say. Thus an unexplicable event apparently having nothing
to do with our efforts happens as the product of a series of well
timed events, a chain of events. Causal logic strings along, as if
produceing the uncalculated.

Some keywords for this new transneptune. The estimated H = 4.1
at the moment I write this (Quaoar lunation, Dec 4th 2002), so
this is a large object, the size of Pallas, but smaller than Varuna:

Varuna 43.271856 0.052987 17.1294 97.2854 275.2209 52600.5 83.8067 3.7
2002MS4 44.862516 0.047481 17.6133 215.7807 229.3647 52460.5 180.0889 4.1
Pallas 2.773483 0.229937 34.8425 173.1716 310.3944 52400.5 175.4143 4.13
2002VE95 39.440037 0.292584 15.7186 198.5096 211.3637 52580.5 359.9517 4.2

I say `at the time I write this', since orbital elements may change
(they actually _must_ change), and we had a recent surprise as concerns
`a slightly smaller' Quaoar;)

Therefore some keywords as to what the object could mean:

The end of time
Rhytm divine
Dreamtime
Savior
Redeeming
Astral catwalk of familiar spirits
Embracing the skies and the Earth
Abrupt end of a dream
The end of an epoch
Completely new life and friends
Nothing happens as planned
God is in the house (meaning upheaval)
Swan's song
Infinity presses
Non linear time as the product of stringing up events in perfect timing
Only spontaneous alert exorcises the devil
Doing things on the spur of the moment
Without lust of result
Green Man or Tarot's Fool
NEMO (omen) Magister Templi (one without a self)
Waking up with the `house on fire'
The sleeper must awake
I am the one (Neo, Matrix the movie)
Controlling a deliberate dream without controling it at all
Running away _from_ the pack
A drop of refined elyxir falls in the Caldron /4/
Flight to Egypt /3/ (this seems important)
The spider saves Mohammed in the cave
Looking high and low
Astral enemies from which is better to run away _without_ fear
Threathening presence of inorganic scouts
The three magi visit the Redeemer
Haunting spirits of the past
Joint forces of `evil' wearing casual pretty juvenile masks
A feast in Heaven
Bloodbath /0/
An assembly
Ancestry
Followup
Mission completed
Troublemaker
`Clear your minds!' (master Yoda)
Intruder /1/
A stranger popping out of nowhere
New kid in town (a kid may be dangerous)
Being shown around
Having a driver
Guitar player
Time discreation /2/
Hopeless
Bone headed
Cult
the - of the +
Timing no planning
Harmony
The rhytm of the omniverse

If we allow time to exist we usually think it. We think linear time
as no other human experiment will. `Primitive' tribal man, animistic
fellow and the zen monk don't have that Rolex time at all! The zen
monk perhaps makes notice of events stringing along as if happening
one after another, but is not aware of a `2 pm' time. There is no
2 pm for him. I'll have to ask a Top End aborgine to report on the
rest of real men on this Earth. Malidoma Patrice Some could help.
Carlos Castaneda `describes' non-linear time on various occasions
and it is not something that the `ratio' can absorb or feel comfortable
with at all.

The keyword is `dreamtime' since this author feels it is appropriate
to equal events performed or witnessed by the astral `double' with
non-linear time. Even in `common' dreams there is no such thing as
3:25 am.

One note on the delineations:

I am aware people will project their hopes for a better time on their
favorable new planet and expect the best from the planet itself. Vote,
change your mind and that of others instead as the planet in itself
could not care less for politics.

Around 2/2/2001 the first (and only) delineations of Varuna ever published
announced jihad due to Varuna's conjunction(s) with Jupiter in the Gemini
(twins) constellation, and the twin towers fell. Ixion was esteemed (anti)
global and Ixion ascending shot the man during an antiglobal protest in
Genova, Italy. Quaoar predicted bad luck for the agressor and Basra was
attacked.

In the meantime people might sing vedic hymns to Varuna and shamanize
around Quaoar, but this objects, as well as Ixion, were delineated
_before_ they were named. And so is 2002 MS4 (not a little object at
all!). The language used is not one in daily use, I suppose, but in
this moment the object is neither.

Klaudio Zic

/0/ Bloodbath litteraly as perhaps with a girl that starts bleeding
when in a tub, or some occult nonsense with blood. Very slight
overtone of danger and almost certain escape in most cases.

/1/ This is taken to mean as in the case of a (brown dwarf) like
Nibiru (in sitchin theory). The intruding object distorts the
planetary ellipses of the solar system it passes by (temporarely)
into heartlike shapes. This at least as far as my experience with
a gravitational simulator tells to me.

/2/ Time neither exists nor it does not exist.

/3/ Possibly Jesus initiation into Osiris (Sun, Venus = Ankh,
Varuna) cults. Quoting one recent article:

"Venus is trine Varuna and the Sun partakes of the aspect. "

/4/ Taoist alchemy. Kundalini rises unobstructed and the refined
sexual (Scorpion - Snake - white Eagle) energy fills the Tan
Tien or Hara. See also Tahuti XIII and :|||:|

This article is © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
Quaoar HQ http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org

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Claudio Valentin Solis

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Some major transneptunes for Jesus Christ

A service by http://puck.dhs.org © 2002 Klaudio Zic

This data are a gift by Aldo Vitagliano to whom go all my gratitude.
He has presented me with special files for his Solex 5 program and
freeware. I'm not aware of any other possibility to calculate this!

Aldo Vitagliano
Dipartimento di Chimica,Universitŕ di Napoli "Federico II"
via Mezzocannone 4, I-80134 Napoli, Italy
E-mail: alvitagl@unina.it


Date: -7/ 9/17

13 2001UR16 137 14 23.9 - 0 34 2.9 56.237066
14 Varuna 23 34 46.2 - 13 8 55.6 40.413512
15 Ixion 191 31 20.9 + 10 28 22.0 48.334188
16 2002AW19 48 22 23.7 + 16 52 17.7 52.374360
17 Chaos 226 20 51.0 - 4 50 28.0 50.184726

The time is set for sunset of the day when, according to the arabian
bible, Joseph went to fetch the midwife.

Varuna is at 24 aries, Ixion at 12 virgo, 2002 AW197 at 19 tau.
This 19 tau is an interesting position in that it opposes Alpha
serpentis (fighting the evil). Thus it is the Christ who fights
the snake (Serpens) i.e. Satan. My Cassini Lilith is at 19 tau.

2001 UR163, Chaos and 2002 AW197 form three points of a grand +
cross. The second cusp (PORTA INFERNA, the door of hell in occult
tradition) is conjunct the North Moon Node and 2002 AW197. Again
the anti evil degree is stressed. The North Lunar Node is often
the mission. The head of the dragon, draconic Osiris cults?

Venus is trine Varuna and the Sun partakes of the aspect. If we
take Varuna for `jihad' and Venus NIKH for `V', victory /1/, we
have a victorious partisan, indeed.

We have found 2002 AW197 present where large amounts of energy
passed from hand to hand, like in a big finantial transaction,
most remarkably concerning the purchase of Alaska on the part
of the U.S.A.. This transneptune is obviousely stressed in the
case of Jesus and it is on the second cusp. /2/

I am preparing a large report including Quaoar and some new
transneptune giants on http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck .

/1/ Speaking about NIKH, today is Saint Nicola(u)s, the victorious.
Santa Claus would be `Victor' in latin. Dec 6th 2002 FACIT.

/2/ At the time when I did the chart I had adjusted it slightly to
an avestan at the M.C. (Proserpina). The objects I use here were
of course _not_ discovered at the time!

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Appendixes:
===========

Tropical longitude positions of the four archangels in Christ's own time.

MIKAL (Aldebaran) 11 52' 16" tau
GBRIAL (Formalhaut) 5 44' 37" aqu
RPhAL (Regulus) 2 03' 44" leo
AVRIAL (Antares) 11 52' 51" sco

Juan Antonio Revilla's RIYAL program for DOS was used to calculate the
star positions for the time when Christ lived. The pentagram ritual and
various cross systems can be adjusted to this position and archangels.

Solex 5 spreadout

Date: -7/ 9/17

0 Sun 172 31 4.48 - 0 0 0.44 0.99547576
1 Mercury 188 53 48.44 - 0 53 38.11 1.32719360
2 Venus 142 44 24.29 + 1 8 4.91 1.38392774
4 Mars 119 20 15.01 + 1 15 15.91 2.03275780
5 Jupiter 308 35 47.94 - 1 23 38.73 4.22292552
6 Saturn 334 11 53.66 - 2 27 49.32 8.45641744
7 Uranus 329 1 9.04 - 0 48 30.17 19.15400662
8 Neptune 211 18 6.60 + 1 51 31.77 31.09146501
9 Pluto 157 56 17.77 + 16 7 26.39 31.87161742
10 Ceres 210 16 43.8 + 5 42 1.9 3.633876
11 Pallas 166 41 47.6 - 2 22 46.4 3.061515
12 Vesta 273 41 20.2 - 3 11 21.9 1.961919
13 2001UR16 137 14 23.9 - 0 34 2.9 56.237066
14 Varuna 23 34 46.2 - 13 8 55.6 40.413512
15 Ixion 191 31 20.9 + 10 28 22.0 48.334188
16 2002AW19 48 22 23.7 + 16 52 17.7 52.374360
17 Chaos 226 20 51.0 - 4 50 28.0 50.184726




Claudio Valentin Solis

[intruder]

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Qaoar - a new astrological object http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar
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Quaoar prophecies a true heart. The lack of constancy brings
about tribulations. Quarrel ends up and lovers unite from their
true hearts. In this time, in Italy, young girls tend to await
for TRUE LOVE. Why so? They have seen the effect of the sexual
revolution. Their parents married quickly and now often live
a boring and alienated marriage/life. Therefore the need for a
clear perspective, reliable relationship and true companion.

QUAOAR in Love
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For the past 200 years Vesta, Ceres and Pallas ruled as the largest
asteroids. Varuna, Ixion and 2002 AW197 announced 2002 LM60 (proposed
name `Quaoar'), H 1.6, larger than all asteroids put together. Simscans,
ephemeris, wheel charts, delineation proposals, examples and fellow
transeptuners frequently updated on http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar

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<Quaoar 2002 LM60>

<2002 LM60 QUAOAR KEYWORDS>
2002 LM60 provisory keywords
============================ all things are fair in love and war
& delineation proposal

<LOVE>

Quaoar prophecies a true heart. The lack of constancy brings
about tribulations. Quarrel ends up and lovers unite from their
true heart. In this time, in Italy, young girls tend to await
for TRUE LOVE. Why so? They have seen the effect of the sexual
revolution. Their parents married quickly and now often live
a boring and alienated conjugal life. Therefore the need for a
clear perspective, reliable relationship and true companion.


Every newly discovered minor planet is expected to deliver. The
standard request is the hand of Helen of Troy and a purse full of
gold. What else God is for? Useless frozen rotating potatoes in outer
space are out of question. Jupiter has been trained to bring good
luck (no thunderbolts, please; fireworks) and settled down as resident
casino dealer. Venus is always welcome. Nothing seems to undermine
humanity's childish chase for `love and money' untill old age makes
us chase pills. But even in old age one seeks love. We are told and
trained to. Who told us so and why we are useless instead of majikal
beings is too far fetched for this rather clumsy and occasionally
amusing analysis. We have a new minor planet up there. It is really
a big one. Nothing like this happened in the past 200 years. Let us
celebrate it and fill it's first delineations with our reflexes, fears,
expectances, observances, ideals; and also perhaps _hear_ from Quaoar
itself what it has to say in it's noble silence.

Klaudio Zic, Oct 16th 2002

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O5 DisCreation basic formula
INTEND your goal.
1. MERGE with the OBSTACLE:
2. Expand with the OBSTACLE as you breath it in.
3. Exit and LABEL the OBSTACLE for deletion.
4. Disclaim the OBSTACLE as your own now useless creation.
5. Allow for the OBSTACLE's SELF-DESTRUCTION.
reINTEND your goal.

Besides discreating negative astrological effects, O5 delivers
on daily basis, working for you as a goal achiever in real time.
For best results and personal training mail t8@puck.dhs.org




MONEY

The profit is 300 %. Creative transactions + courageuos !nitiative.
Quaoar ascending brings attention and money, support and good omens.

LOVE

<input> <!-- Oct 15th 2002 -->

About Quaoar and some extremely feminine horoscopes

With Quaoar in a good position and feminine aspects, we plunge into
the Return of the Matriachal Queendom. Perhaps we've been born out
there first, out in the wilderness and not on this Earth. If Quaoar
is to be as feminine as Moon on the Ascendant (Moon Earth conjunction).

The 1963 - 1965 generation has a lovely Quaoar Spica Virginis aspect.
This conjunction can be hopelessly feminine when supported by other
aspects /1/. The 1969 case of Quaoar 1 sco is strikingly sexy. Quaoar
at first did not show this part of it's nature, but it might become
the popular face of this icy planetoid. Chariklo the centauress had
this warming up function in a class of objects called the centaurs,
to which her partner Chiron pertains, too.

This type of women is a man killer and head hunter. They of course
could not care less of their victims, but they finds it charming! Ice
melts from time to time, even black ice, but the amazon core steers
it's course accordng to some natural (9) strategy. Sqeeze and drop.
Back to the basic lessons of animal kingdom, then. This is not Barbie
or Disney. This is real life.

I'll have the immense pleasure to monitor a special case I know
personally very well, indeed. A case of (do I have to say) lovely
twins that have an 11 sag ascending sun. Hope this features in the
following articles. Namely, Quaoar transits that degree at this time.

A case of exceptional beauty, a voluptuous little doll, 1978 brand,
caught my attention. She has an exact Venus (10 tau) Quaoar (10 sco)
opposition. I leave this note here for the forthcoming erotastrologer.

I'm adding an example for the sake of stirring some research. A
separating (3 degree) aspect of Mars (Spica) Quaoar 1965 represents
an unapproachable or hardly approachable beauty.

At the risk of being aware of trying to squeeze cosmetics from a
mere icy rock, I suppose `all man in each man' and something human
even in God. In that way the prophets could approach God and in the
same way, probing like a bunch of Ewoks, we approach giant icy rocks.

Keeping the real delineations secret is another thing. The general
public would not know how to interpret them. The language in which
they are written is too private and perhaps `occult'. Even this
short proposal fountains with expressions out of the newspaper world.

/1/ To propose some; Moon in Cancer trine Venus, Chariklo conjunct
Venus, Venus square Cassini Lilith and/or Neptune, Mars square
Saturn (vamp), Scorpio Sun with Sagittarius rising, Venus Spica
Jupiter, Cassini Lilith conjunct Uranus. Examples abound.

</input> <!-- Oct 15th 2002 -->


<input> <!-- Oct 13th 2002 -->

Getting married right away. Problems to be expected and solved.
Quaoar can help the Astromancer in calculating marriage issues,
when the rulers of the ascendant and the descendant do not present
themselves in an easy arithmetical fashion.


</input> <!-- Oct 13th 2002 -->


Never heed what they say. Faith I have and put in you.
Every day is something new. And nothing else matters!
Fealty, capable of long waiting, firstborn, old fashioned
love, never give up on that girl! Sex might suffer because
of religious and finantial drawbacks. Missionary posture.

<input> <!-- Oct 13th 2002 -->


Tao knows neither yin nor yang. Yin is naturally faithful
since there is only one partner in sight, Yang. Yinyanging
brings about further difficult choices.

Let Quaoar be the lord protector of the first love. In time,
a temptation is resisted. Truemind is not false. It is true.

The original chaos gives birth to the first semblances. Man
and woman enmesh.

When afflicted, 2002 LM60 gives birth to colonies of slippermen.
The husband does not perform well his functions as concerns being
out and fighting. He does not deliver what is expected from him
in the world outside his family.

Marriage is not favored. The mistress will have several lovers.
Fealty falsely sworn. The husband might take to booze and die in
loneliness.

People with afflicted Quaoar might have an overprotective bossy
attitude, determined to protect what they have and are behind
their strongholds. Klingzor archetype, as opposed to Parzeval.

Parzefalus is truemind unintentionally provoking Klingzor's
self-castration. The old interplay of truemind (the Moon matrix)
and false mind (Sun, ego, los voladeros).

This affliction is like the fixed square between Taurus and Leo,
hierophant's lust.

</input>




We kill no indians. There is no devil. Quaoar is good.


<input> <!-- Oct 15th 200 -->

The transneptunes, being disinteressed in man, exert a powerful
long lasting impersonal influence on the affairs of mice and men.

The last planet(ary beings) `interested' in (punishing) the fate
of man seem(s) to be Saturn(ian beings, ONQIM). The Uranus sphere
is hardly attainable even to the few major adepts. The transneptune
sphere and mission (if any) is completely hidden even from semigods.

Thus some further annotations and keywords concerning little giant
2002 LM60 Quaoar (H 1.6), a recent discovery.

Fatality. VIS MAJOR. Temptation. The undercover knowledge of being
enslaved by the devil. First step to exorcism. Faithfulness without
a choice. Lovers divided by space (time). Fate. Physical life. The
mistery of evil. Los voladeros. Time as master over the destiny of
mere humans and initiates. Magister Templi. Evil temptation. Cancer.

When afflicted 2002 LM60 Quaoar seems worse even than Varuna and yet
more mysterious that Varuna. Both will hide their secrets for a long
time, while Ixion seems more `cooperative' and/or prone to show off.

As with Varuna, when one is having Qoaoar problems, they are hidden.
Man ignores the very existance of inorganic beings (devils, los
voladeros) and is thus enslaved. Not that being aware of their
existance would help him much. His mind wil object such absurd
and dreadful propositions, not being his mind at all. Therefore
no one will believe in this part of the delineation. Further on
when this object becomes an object of war, the mind will be
commanded to discard such a proposal (we are the good guys).
We kill no indians. There is no devil. Quaoar is good.

This also explains the Tarot card having to do with enslave
ment. The enslavement is on the mental plane, in that the inorganic
installsa mind for the man-slave. We have been implanted such default
minds and go around using them and thinking we do the thinking. Zen
calls them `little minds', Osho suggests getting rid of them. But it
is not so simple to stop thinking even for a split second. People try
with orgasm, perhaps drugs, holidays, excitement, but they `just can't
shake the Beast'. Attempts at meditation and genuine majik training,
as well as aikido gradually remove the false mind or ego. Quaoar might
be the very home of los voladeros, however fantastical this proposal
even for the initiates.

There is a good side to everything and simple minds will rejoice in
shamanistic revivals if the proposed name Quaoar will be accepted.
I attempted the arduous task of describing the non-human side of this
distant icy rock. Why would it have anything to do with humans at all?
Just because we name it? Or it suits our post new age business, perhaps
soothing everything but perfect mothers or sell pseudoshamanism to us
white trash? I'd believe a Navajo, in fact I'm working on it. Navajo
astrology would perhaps have Quaoar near the Rabbits Paws constellation.

This is highly experimental, though; we are a few days from the discovery
and even the orbiral parameters are liable to change. The object is not
named yet. But this time is the best to set some first naive delineation.

</input>

</LOVE>


2002 LM60 `Quaoar' - In Houses - http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar
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A Guide in 2002 LM60 Quaoar transneptune in horary & fun astrology.

1. Quaoar in the first house took the hard way of responsability
for one's own karma. People rarely assume complete responsability
for their thoughts, emotions and deeds and therefore the world is
there to play with, hate and put the blame upon. Otherwise there
is none. One that seeks HimSelf does not live in the world any
more. Silent task performer. The rewards for a work well done is
a new task. Mapping the planet. Riding a mare at night in the
desert. The karmamechanic. The not-doer. Passively meeting the
devil. The clash of opposite forces. A waoman badly in need of
a man. Crossing this line brings more and more responsability,
a hard working life, self denieal, blood, sweat and tears. Good
perhaps only to the spiritual `person', bad for earthly pursuit.
Attainment of territory best used for meditation. Unused ground.

2. A mysterious masked man moves at night across the city of
bridges. The sky is cloudy. A powerful position. The stalker.
Bad for marriage and fealty. Completely new situation. The end
and completion of a cycle. PORTA INFERNA. The wand of power.
The exorcist. The necromancer. Neuromancer. Astromancer. Music.
Rainbow colored night. Not partecipating in the carneval as yet.
The dreamer in ensueno. The absurdity of reincarnation. The man
that is you. Going about one's own secret paths. Independent.

This is the Xakomo Kaxanova position. Possessing a secret not
even friars wield, the beloved sneaks around every corner.
One wins with every hand and deck. Springfull of fortuna.
All hands on decks! The eternal carnival invites your mask, too.

3. The beloved. The womb of the beloved. Breadwinner. Temporarely
separated. Sexual life `suffers' rather short restraints. The
beautiful. Slight jealousy. The provider. A friendly position.

One note: whenever `the womb' is mantioned, it is (like in the
case of Cruithne) handled and meant rather as an aditional tool
of power women shamans have, than in it's (secondary?) reproductive
function. Therefore the womb becomes the re-productive majikal
device.

Premavatar. The avatar of love. Very beautiful, indeed from
the outside as well and very much the more so inside. Soul
power and beauty. Possibly immaculate and eternal. Corpse
does not rot away easily.

Both Christ and Yogananda have this position.

4. Perhaps the worst position, in that it symbolizes finity. The
end. Birth and death interlaced, but the accent is on the end.
Sometimes a situation having no development and the coming of
demons ever after. Every beginning is hard, better not start
anything with this position in your horary or event horoscope.

5. A gossiping fellow back in jail soon. A loving relationship
causes truouble due to a gossiping young man. He receives
money but is thrown to jail. Idle and evil tongues provoke
quarrel. This is like Mars in transit squaring the ascendant
of a Davison Relationship chart. The house of lust besieged.

See also `Quaoar in the 5th majikal house' in the Appendixes.

6. Working afterhours. Partying after a work undone. One orgasm
only between you two? Too satisfied to do further hard work?

7. With one's own ego facing him, he makes progress and stirrs
sympathy. A work well done. Competence in the matter at hand.
Phalus as punisher. Supermodels as phallic symbol (Evangelista).

8. The womb. Woman demasked. Approachable. Some mental confusion.

9. The womb in the centre of an 8. The ideally shaped woman. To
watch. Bathing naked for hidden observers. A host of illusions.

10. The woman hand and her idle lover. Sexual favors. The kidnapped
lover. Something is yours that was not some time ago. Whose is it?

11. The womb. Two gentlemen cross their swords on a bridge. Friendly
contest, rather than fight to death. Fighting for the resources.

12. The magical touch. Incantation. Seduced by the spirit. Casanova.
The medium. Masonry. Matriarchate. The ancestress. SVMMVM BONVM.

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Appendixes
==========


5. This position is perhaps the most favored of all. The majikian
abandons any interest in mundane matters. This is the true and
lofty Astromancer. Excellent time for astrology matters. Ascent
in rank and title. One is welcome by gods. Entering the perfect
world. Karma is discreated. The witness technique. Om saksi aham.
Nemo. Disinteressed but successful. What a sublime opportunity!

Sanyassin or hermit, the dreamer renounces the pleasures of the
flesh. The guru is an astrologer, possibly vedic western astrologer
and a very good one. He might benefit the world much dissipating
his knowledge in shumeran conception astrology.

In an early age hemight abandon interest in mental ego centered
activities and his aura will grow ever since to full size. The
ascent `in rank and title' might in fact be his inititation, such
into swami or high (but of course modest) adepthood.

Thus renouncing flesh means attaining to love. It is in the 11th
house that the astrologer seeks love, while the mysterious 5th is
about lust and `holy lust'. Practicing the witness technique such
as in jnana yoga is the most sublime effort at ego destruction.

One is justly `welcome by gods' as brahmajnana or `Knower of the
Knower'. Om saks(h)i aham means `I am the witness of all'. This
leads us back to the first lessons ordained by Franz Bardon.

The disinteressment is total since the ego is minimal. One is not
interessed in `one's own' success.


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O5 DisCreation basic formula
INTEND your goal.
1. MERGE with the OBSTACLE:
2. Expand with the OBSTACLE as you breath it in.
3. Exit and LABEL the OBSTACLE for deletion.
4. Disclaim the OBSTACLE as your own now useless creation.
5. Allow for the OBSTACLE's SELF-DESTRUCTION.
reINTEND your goal.

Besides discreating negative astrological effects, O5 delivers
on daily basis, working for you as a goal achiever in real time.
For best results and personal training mail t8@puck.dhs.org



<WAR>

WAR

Concerning the contemporary wars (Iraq) it regulates the
low flying air crafts and helicopters, even combinations.
Disorder, disobedience, yet medals and successful endings,
casualties (1/3), the conclusion is far better then the
disordered beginning; are the orders good? The war can be
lost when this object is active, even if it's unafflicted.
Favorable for unexpected inspections enhancing discipline.
When and where this object is active, war will surely be.

</WAR>

TOTEMS

Two turtle doves back to back observing the skies. Dragon.




M0THERPIECE - Introductionary Keywords for Godmothers - Quaoar

Central Ritual Computer. Mothership. Justified & Ancients. Core.
Proper intent as correspondence to principles, instead of mere truthful
facts. INTENTido. True Aim. Noble purpose. Sincere objectives.
Womb. Heartland. Womb as dreaming instrument. Hatching. To be able to
rely upon. Reliable. Dependable. Trust I feel and I put in you.
The wings of the bird protects the fledglings in their nest.
Proper inner feeling of exactness and sincerity as with hens tending
their chickens. Truth. Hidden truth. To kiss. Heart to heart.
Children depend on their parents. The thighs as dreams memory bank,
the body storing innermost memories and intentidoes. Human breed for
the inorganic? Body language. True Mind. Mothering 0neself. 0.
Dionysian cults of eternity. Wine mysteries. Central Ritual AI.

<MAJIK> Quaoar 2002 LM60

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O5 DisCreation basic formula
INTEND your goal.
1. MERGE with the OBSTACLE:
2. Expand with the OBSTACLE as you breath it in.
3. Exit and LABEL the OBSTACLE for deletion.
4. Disclaim the OBSTACLE as your own now useless creation.
5. Allow for the OBSTACLE's SELF-DESTRUCTION.
reINTEND your goal.

Besides discreating negative astrological effects, O5 delivers
on daily basis, working for you as a goal achiever in real time.
For best results and personal training mail t8@puck.dhs.org



MAJIK

Majikal influence of Quaoar 2002 - 2005 excluding sigils and
talismans for travel and good luck on the sea.
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Quaoar influences majikally in threefold ways during the next
three years. This is for general reference and cannot be used
for talisman and sigil production in this form and as presented.

FIRST MAJIKAL INFLUENCE - Traveling Astromancer

Quaoar protects the traveler. As Coelho's Alchemist, the traveler
is likely to return and find his prize besides his old hearth.
Gales and hurricanes are warded off using a certain talisman and
sigil. Long travel initiated by the current position is likely
to meet unwanted drawbacks. A `member of the crew' can oppose the
project. Like Crowley in Khaled Khan or Hesse in Journey to the
East, a bad star appears and it's demons. PRAESAEPE. One talks
the demons away. The company `of the Ring' will have quarrels,
all ends well. rescue missions are favored by this first influence.

SECOND MAJIKAL INFLUENCE - Astronomicon Incantations

Ethical majikians will be trained in evocation. Evocation is also
a communication with a star-spirit, or a planetary god. ASTRONOMY
DOMINE as Pink Floyd would. The astromancer induces a trance and
receives and discusses with this second influence. Powerful majik
words will dominate every spirit as this initation is received by
a highly ethical and balanced adept.

THIRD MAJIKAL INFLUENCE - Astralogy

Astrology is an astral science. In this initiation, the astromamcer
learns his way about in the astral kingdom. The incipient student
practices lucid dreaming and O5 basics.

In this phase, meeting hostile entities assumes dramatical dimensions.


FURTHER INFLUENCES - Kabala and Finance - 2004

The two subsequent initiations will be kabala or the use of word and
color. Trade and monetary matters, the make of coins, is the next
initiation. Like the Euro, a new global currency may well be imminent.

First class finantial training, events and gain. One currency to bind
'em all. Finantial domination and the science of creating a large
profit. Monopoly. The incipient majikian learns finantioal O5 first.

See also 2002 AW197 finantiasteroid below or from webpage
http://puck.dhs.org/2003/tno

</MAJIK>


SYMBOLS

Pierced heart? Psi. A target with an arrow through the center.
A drum on a decorated standard. A square with the middle marked.
A waterbird in the form of the greek letter `psi' shielding it's
fledglings. 0. Humpty Dumpty.

ARTS

Visual naive arts. The screen baby. Computer random art.

HEALTH

Isolated, wrongly accused, falling hazard, sexual denial

BUSINESS

A big corporation triangulating the competition.
A triumvirate is formed as gross capitalism has nowhere
to implode. Food industry. Disneyland. Canada.

See also <MAJIK>
============================
annotations


The current position of 2002 LM60 is 11 sag.

2002-Nov-04 00:00 250.1344145 6.9173345
2002-Dec-24 00:00 251.4032499 6.9195802
2003-Feb-12 00:00 252.3593677 7.0249039
2003-Apr-03 00:00 252.4481925 7.1723898
2003-May-23 00:00 251.7179272 7.2655174
2003-Jul-12 00:00 250.8115323 7.2439266
2003-Aug-31 00:00 250.4823681 7.1332104
2003-Oct-20 00:00 251.0587754 7.0194616
2003-Dec-09 00:00 252.2639556 6.9849017
2004-Jan-28 00:00 253.4062479 7.0600163

(NASA JPL HORIZONS Integrator by Jon Giorgini)

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O5 DisCreation basic formula
INTEND your goal.
1. MERGE with the OBSTACLE:
2. Expand with the OBSTACLE as you breath it in.
3. Exit and LABEL the OBSTACLE for deletion.
4. Disclaim the OBSTACLE as your own now useless creation.
5. Allow for the OBSTACLE's SELF-DESTRUCTION.
reINTEND your goal.

Besides discreating negative astrological effects, O5 delivers
on daily basis, working for you as a goal achiever in real time.
For best results and personal training mail t8@puck.dhs.org



The zen cook breaks the vase.
A scribe holding aloft his broken pen.

<< 2002 LM60 in aspect with Uranus: protected skies.
The eye in the sky. Spy Sattelites. New astr@logy.
2002 LM60 calms down Uranus, bringing peace. >>

<input> <!-- Oct 10th 2002 -->

The 2002 LM60 Uranus (conjunction) transit for the U.S.A.
for this new year (roughly Dec 28th 2002), however, is not
a calm series of days. Open conflicts are likely, useless
agression and failure of peace treaties (albeit one of the
fractions retreats from the major cities). A religious
call and speach rings like the Arm(s) of God. The Lord of
the Hosts (or warlord) in the Holy Bible.

</input>

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Binary wars. IBM launches a new product. Mainframe computing
for the masses. The end of all technology. Floods.
A book bearing a message of careful armed peace leads the
masses to the final resolution, completely dislodging the
enemies from their homes. A hard but final decision.
This minor (?) planet acts as a Saturn direction or a Jupiter -
Saturn clash. It sends a Gemini to punish a Capricorn.
Major hacker wars. Breaking in, dislodging, punishing.
The display of a symbol of authority and power.
Message (of peace) unspoken?
Dragon eagle totem.
The ink in the well. (the `blood of a poet')
Divide and take the right half. (That happened to Germany.)
MOTHERPIECE Tiamat?
Hague court martial.
The country leader waving half of the symbol (coat of arms) of the
enemy nation above his head in proclamation.

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Retrace, recapitulate, relive, retrace one's steps
Christ stands (holds the doors) on the door
Waiting at the door, ready to go
Lethern shoes, this boots are made for walking
Moccassine

Political triumvirates and long term politics
The world made up of three countries only?

Puzzle
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Hidden way wantonly bound connecting revealed devotion of unknown
disarray.

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/1/ Which Earth's LOCATION reflects the position of 2002 LM60?

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while most people were unaware of the very existance of the
TNO or transneptune objects. Some of the first discoveries
were nicked almost as a joke, Smiley and Karla. Astrologers
did not dare use them transneptunes or did not have the luck
and technical knowledge. 2002 LM60 should give everybody the
opportunity to learn. We have still a couple of TNOs to
delineate and of course new giants to come. Our competence
and methods differ but we hope we work for a common goal!

Serenella Venier, Xiomara Oncilota, Franzine Lucette Hans and
Celestia Navagero for A.C.A., Oct 15th 2002, Serenissima.





Claudio Valentin Solis

[intruder]

This article is © 2002 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.

Quaoar in the 12 Majikal Houses - A Horary Majikian's Manual

1. Quaoar in the first house can be used for kundalini majik,
_if_ the practicant knows what he does. On the whole if one
can wait for a better time, he is advised to skip the operation.
Travel spells are perhaps favored and majikal parties arranged.

2. The Great Work. The 4 women stalkers supporting their Nagual.
The untruncated pyramid. He who climbs loses the world below.
The progressing airplane seems small. Distant goals seem so
vague. In the case of the pyramid, diminishing is progressing.
Nothing is at the top. Nothing has a stong basis. Quaoar was
labeled `Magister Templi' in one annotation. However, it may
rule Binah. Let this degree remain secret for the time being
and the purpose of this article. The second house is PORTA
INFERNA and in hell even Carlos Castaneda works. Good for
material gains connected with one's mission. Treasure charts
are futurity blueprints. Measure seven times, then cut. A
perfect plan. All goes according to masterplan. 3Jane. Partners
split and form their own enterprizes. Go your own way, then.
Get rid of old majik tools and procedures, make space for new.

3. Do not rush. At this horary time await. In a hour or two the
constellations will warrant a prosperous issue. In the meantime
have fun or take a trip. Do not forget to avoid the evil star
of Alpha Serpentis, too. /1/ If you must use Quaoar with this
position, do avoid 22 sco in the same house or prominent /2/

Quaoar in the third house means evoking spirits of famous
deceased persons like Lao Tzu or pao Hsi, probably for an
extremely comfortable short time and compressed information.

The beloved. The womb of the beloved. Breadwinner. Temporarely
separated. Sexual life `suffers' rather short restraints. The
beautiful. Slight jealousy. The provider. A friendly position.

Premavatar. The avatar of love. Very beautiful, indeed from
the outside as well and very much the more so inside. Soul
power and beauty. Possibly immaculate and eternal. Corpse
does not rot away easily. Love divine. Inorganic travel.

Spirit evocation can mean spirits come `in flesh' or seem to
have come in flesh. Thus your guru may `visit you' even after
he has deceased (in his own way). One example is Star Wars
where Anakin Yoda and Obi-Wan reappear to Luke. The Bible hosts
and example and the vedas should be full of `darshan's or close
apparitions. See also Taisha Abelar and Franz Bardon for more.
http://www.lava.net/~pagios

Both Christ and Yogananda have this position.


4. A good position to help a friend victimized by drugs. Also for
those who have nightmares. Sometimes they are the blessed ones
but in this case nightmares can be true astral assaults. In war
this position is one of vigil. Night attacks expected. Towers
are taken. Weaklings and double tongues are dislodged. One does
not easily use his majikal weapons. A new lodge and order is
proclaimed at this time. Dislodging. Sol in Gemini. Sol in Taurus.

When Quaoar is closely conjunct I.C., even the guru is tempted
by close joyous temptations that would almost spoil him. In war
one is ready to die but does not die. The position is most likely
of those born by the sea. As Crowley would in his masterpiece
swan song `Khaled Khan': `Restrain yourself and thou shalt be free'.

5. This position is perhaps the most favored of all. The majikian
abandons any interest in mundane matters. This is the true and
lofty Astromancer. Excellent time for astrology matters. Ascent
in rank and title. One is welcome by gods. Entering the perfect
world. Karma is discreated. The witness technique. Om saksi aham.
Nemo. Disinteressed but successful. What a sublime opportunity!

Sanyassin or hermit, the dreamer renounces the pleasures of the
flesh. The guru is an astrologer, possibly vedic western astrologer
and a very good one. He might benefit the world much dissipating
his knowledge in shumeran conception astrology.

In an early age hemight abandon interest in mental ego centered
activities and his aura will grow ever since to full size. The
ascent `in rank and title' might in fact be his inititation, such
into swami or high (but of course modest) adepthood.

Thus renouncing flesh means attaining to love. It is in the 11th
house that the astrologer seeks love, while the mysterious 5th is
about lust and `holy lust'. Practicing the witness technique such
as in jnana yoga is the most sublime effort at ego destruction.

One is justly `welcome by gods' as brahmajnana or `Knower of the
Knower'. Om saks(h)i aham means `I am the witness of all'. This
leads us back to the first lessons ordained by Franz Bardon.

The disinteressment is total since the ego is minimal. One is not
interessed in `one's own' success.

6. Toil, fight, responsability, too much opposing forces, too eager
to do it right, too much fire. Even if all is well planned and
orderly, the excessive amount of zeal leads to dissapointment
(like in extreme militant nationalism) and the end is oblivion.
Very evil for love majik. Not very good for an attack. Pause.

7. Peace. Natural flow. No need for celibacy. The lower three
cakras at work (as in Three of Cups). Perhaps having no wish at
all or diminishing one's ambitions and actions. Rest. Giving in.

8. `We love you, CatMother!'. This is Molly's (Neuromancer) position.
All is fair in love and war. A divine fiery woman brings about
unexpected events. The matter at hand can be divined, though.

9. And there were two. Twin stalkers. Twin dreamers. Twin dragons.
Lodges clashing after walking together for some time. Physical
fight (Molly breaks her leg). The MatriX has you! Grin and be out
of it fast. 3Jane and Molly in apparent fight. Jacob at Peniel.

10. Let the sun shine. Aspiration to the great boss. But the Beast
can bite! Be sure of your rank. Towards savikalpa samadhi, but
one has still a gross ego on his back. Los Voladeros. There and
back, as Tolkien would. Retreat if attacked. Anahata. False Mind.

This is the position of a known avatar. Intrigue, avatarship and
perhaps a doubt or two to the followers. What is perfect illumination?
Authorities see it in Swami Madhavananda, Swami Maheshvarananda,
Swami Vivekananda, Swami Narayanananda; but the same authorities
could deny an avatarship here and there. This transcends our little
delineation but I have found my own provisory delimneation intriguing
to say the least about this position for the avatar. We could say
the fight against the devil (los voladeros) ends for some and for
some it still goes on. The ego can be unshakeable as many adepts
and saints witnessed in their own time. This house is now obviousely
a powerful placement for Quaoar. Quaoar is shown here in it's
esquisitly active spiritual form, not only fighting the ego devil,
but also aspiring or attaining to avatarship, therefore transcending
flesh and becoming an inorganic being proper, an avatar. Anahata
is mentioned and an adventure in Middle Earth. Ego comes and goes
but one day it never returns. This has been decribed by Aleister
Crowley, too, and in a very lovely and reader friendly fashion.

`Be sure of your rank' seems to be the warning. The classic song
`Hotel California' states the `just can't kill the beast'. Los
Voladeros are crafty fellows and one cannot just stab in the dark
and hope for deliverance!

11. Enochian towers. Speak the password. A stable situation. Something
is coocking. Sexual tantra. Access Granted. In the Straylight Villa.

12. Use less majikal power or even skip this, or better, do it quickly.
O5 CASCADE. Do not demostrate your powers. Do not let anyone look
into your Sanctuary. The crypt. The last attack of Los Voladeros.

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/1/

Alpha Serpentis, a traditionally evil horary star.

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/2/ Such as conjunct a significator.


<MAJIK> Quaoar 2002 LM60 http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar

MAJIK

Majikal influence of Quaoar 2002 - 2005 excluding sigils and
talismans for travel and good luck on the sea.

Quaoar influences majikally in threefold ways during the next
three years. This is for general reference and cannot be used
for talisman and sigil production in this form and as presented.

FIRST MAJIKAL INFLUENCE - Traveling Astromancer

Quaoar protects the traveler. As Coelho's Alchemist, the traveler
is likely to return and find his prize besides his old hearth.
Gales and hurricanes are warded off using a certain talisman and
sigil. Long travel initiated by the current position is likely
to meet unwanted drawbacks. A `member of the crew' can oppose the
project. Like Crowley in Khaled Khan or Hesse in Journey to the
East, a bad star appears and it's demons. PRAESAEPE. One talks
the demons away. The company `of the Ring' will have quarrels,
all ends well. rescue missions are favored by this first influence.

SECOND MAJIKAL INFLUENCE - Astronomicon Incantations

Ethical majikians will be trained in evocation. Evocation is also
a communication with a star-spirit, or a planetary god. ASTRONOMY
DOMINE as Pink Floyd would. The astromancer induces a trance and
receives and discusses with this second influence. Powerful majik
words will dominate every spirit as this initation is received by
a highly ethical and balanced adept.

THIRD MAJIKAL INFLUENCE - Astralogy

Astrology is an astral science. In this initiation, the astromamcer
learns his way about in the astral kingdom. The incipient student
practices lucid dreaming and O5 basics.

In this phase, meeting hostile entities assumes dramatical dimensions.


FURTHER INFLUENCES - Kabala and Finance - 2004

The two subsequent initiations will be kabala or the use of word and
color. Trade and monetary matters, the make of coins, is the next
initiation. Like the Euro, a new global currency may well be imminent.

First class finantial training, events and gain. One currency to bind
'em all. Finantial domination and the science of creating a large
profit. Monopoly. The incipient majikian learns finantioal O5 first.

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voladeros = los voladeros, a Carlos Castaneda hallmark for a
sort of private inorganic devil, the flyer ::||::
the real enemy of man that makes man an useless
repetitious and predictable being, instead of the
majikal infinite being he was born into this world
as the voladero feeds upon man's energy and emotional
emanation (thus monks train not to have emotions, or
observe them in `witness' fashion) /1/

futurity = a possible future, one of the possible futures out
of an infinite choice of futures (adventurity is a
possible adventure)

ming = mind |:| like a shining clear device

true mind = the original mind, zen mind, prenatal, true self
deedeelike, purposeful, concentrated, meditating,
meeting pleasant trinkets of consciousness, unexpected,
inner silence, intent, lunar mind

false mind = the solar ego, voladero install, default mind, one
size fits all, cheap daily mind everybody uses,
paranoid, grotesque, hideous, reserved, protective,
frenetically on guard, on tiptoe, cunning, baroque,
predatory, hungry, contradictory, ill tempered,
dexterlike, in fear of being discovered, worried,
problem creating, believer, the mark of the beast,
uniform, egomaniacal, competing, routine, rat race,
hopes and fears, pastoral, binary minded, dies irae
dictating, hateful, gothic, dark, unconcentrated,
uncaring, heavy, greedy, overambitious, solar mind

two minds = man has apparently only the daily idiotical routine
mind, the one-size-fits-all mind, with it's ideals
of `the purse full of gold and the hand of Helen of
Troy' (quoting Crowley), but there is yet another
hidden original mind, forgotten perhaps by the age of
three, true mind; Osho suggests to get rid of the
false (that is daily, the `only one we know') mind

sensei = the initiated mind is it's own guru or a combination
of sense and guru; it has sensei to meditate now

devel = diaboladero, diavoladero, the devil, personal devil,
an inorganic being, ruler of this world (of man, the
devil has nothing to do with cows), an old form of
the word `devil', possibly of mid-eastern origin

discreate = to turn the laserbeam spotlight of one's purposeful
and concentrated truemind with truewill towards
the truly noble object (discreating is a way of
saying, deconcentrating on the negativity); to
dissolve negativities in the mental, astral and
the physical domain (as well as the casual/akasa)

intent = intentido, a higher function of true self, the active
side of infinity (ananta), 5th attention

attention = first attention - karma yoga - physical body environment
second attention - bhakti yoga - awake in dreamworld
third attention - raja yoga - hells and paradises
fourth attention - jnana yoga - transcending false ego
fifth attention - sahaja yoga - intentido!

astr@logy = helping the rural people for a better planet


/1/ http://groups.google.com search for `voladeros'
Chinese called them `thunders'
We call them devils `put aside for us'
Some have names like in Shakespeare's King Lear
Voladeros are inorganic beings from outer space
The mind we use most of the time is not ours, it is theirs
Our original (zen!) mind is hardly in use
One can must discard the false ego and regain true mind
Discipline achieves true mind
Discipline is defined as the openess to surprise in little things
Dee Dee is Dexter's sister in the cartoon and good example of truemind
Dexter is too preocupied and self centered, even afraid of being
discovered, and thus a negaitive example of false ego!
The whole of our civilization fosters the false ego
The devil is the ruler of this world of men
You can shake off the devil with discipline (controlled folly)
Dogma and systems of beliefs are the voladero's installation
so that it can keep man under control
The best way to control man is to install an alien mind into him
`Do not fight evil!'
Our Lord Jesus Christ was tempted by the voladero in the desert
A winner over the voladero can become an inorganic being himself
Untill you become as small children
A rich man will never reach devahan

The conclusion is that there's nothing genuine for your true mind
in places like stock exchange, competitive enterprises, i.e. in the
western capitalist world

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Claudio Valentin Solis

[intruder]

Quaoar in Finance

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1. Quaoar in the first house means solid money and bold
succesful enterprise. Go for the best and hit the center.
The rise of capital while moving to the central position.

This is a wage rising position.

Workers asking for a rise should boldly step into the
boss office and speak from it's center. Since the boss
occupies the main desk which shields him and has drawn
the stalker on it's own territory, the stalked in assumes
a surprise central position and speaks from his heart.

2. Investing capital overseas.

Quaoar in the second house means export import business.
The stress is on export. The quick shipping of goods
requires no storage facilities. The sea has always
been the natural route for a large exportation.

Dividing the enterprise into smaller venues is a well
known defense attack tactique. Big monopolists can hide
splitting their systems = you don't know which trees are
really mine and get lost in the forest. What if they are
_all_ mine? DIVIDE ET IMPERA as attacking tactics or SPLIT
AND COOSE THE BEST for you. This is like a lion tearing a
gnu apart and choosing the best flesh first.

This position means safe expense. The Vatican cartel.

3. Quaoar in the third house means extra gain. This meaning
extends to surprise gain or lucky strike like rewards for
a work well done. Since there does not seem to be an immediate
connection between the reward and the work, we are inclined to
see this position as good fortune. But the third position is
not that simple. It requires foresight and help from centaur
Asbolus. Shipping in a hurry or a business trip will at best
be dissuaded by wise introspection or divination. This is not
a time to hurry. We don't have all the parameters at hand and
are yet capable to deal with unexpected business. Disposing of
a troublemaker will not be easy. My advice would be to be very
reasonable and take no big risks. Even divination and Asbolus
himself cannot predict all the issues of tis position.

Facets of this position include people who did not decide
if they do care or not for money at all the `nothing really
matters' attitude. Intruders can live without any money or
work since they surprise society with their lack of compatibilty.

Who shall sow shal reap. Even when he forgot. Thus benefit
comes from past good deed. Duty does what it should and does
not calculate the result. This looks like special karma.

At the time when I was writing these lines, encouraged with
the behavior of finantial asteroid 2002 AW197 in the case of
Alaska, I dared venture in the middle ages. 1300 is the year.
It seems that Quaoar had a long conjunction with 2002 AW197
at that time. This very lines are the example of Quaoar in
the third house. One writes for the sake of writing an perhaps
profits later when least expected!

People will gain at lottery, acquire real estate, get (in)famous,
and experience a rise in personal power, money and property. The
working man is promoted. Students should persist with their studies
to the victorious end. All in all, students prosper; when they
discreate a phantom menace. Merchants experience profit.

Afflictions still lead to a harmonious issue, but require
common sense, social intelligence, an undertaking attitude
and plenty of space for improvisation on the spot. Enterprises
still young experience unexpected ups and downs. After a time
and a transit, a well regulated pattern takes us to safe waters.

4. Quaoar in the fourth house seems to cherish musical industry
and show business. In less prudish times, this type of business
could be called prostitution. Film stars are sexual symbols and
supermodels are phallic symbols. This position is enhanced by
centauress Chariklo.

This is the position of the problem solvers. Even if solving
the problem is to make one relax for a while. Rockefeller
who lived under stress and paranoia from his own close co
workers, once escaped and got mind cured by a farmer friend.

Entertainment as anti stress and possibly source of inspiration?

Among the possible delineations, this position might include
the propagandistic activities of the black lodges. Since
investment is our topic, it seems that a highway is a best
investition. Building is favored.

Prostituition allures the false mind. Psychobabble is not true
learning. The mind is hardly silenced and concentrated in this
position. The lower cakra and sexual instincts play a major
role in the world of advertising. Show them a good pair of
legs and have the `right words' and they buy the product.

It is such a manner that advertising stirrs up temporary
enthusiasm towards things ephemeral. They all want must have it!

Glamor propaganda and show business can even stirr and send people
to war. The stimulation is visual, sexual and verbal. One is convinced
he fights for his ideals. Glenn Miller and Marylin Monroe enMesh a
convincing marshing atmosphere for the typical male to die for his
ol'boys cigar Elvis and Southern Comfort, and the japs might as well
go to hell. While the japs might have demigods for kings and eternal
life, this cotton warrior fights for a drink in the bar.

The business of the broker is to attract/divert attention to easy
stocks. This is bull-baiting at it's best. Uncle$aming the nation.

5. A mighty finantial concern is investing capital overseas with
success. The organization may have a semireligious connotation.

A masonic lodge enters business. The primary motives are not
gain. Insurance companies. With us your money is safe. Swiss
banking. Foundations like money distributing institutions.

Large transport companies. Shipping dangerous material.
Exporting wine. Helping the nations in dire need. UNICEF?

Taking care of the family. Various religious organizations
sending missionaries. Daniel Quinn would not agree on this
but Quaoar in the fifth house does not seem to be interessed
in personal gain.

6. Quaoar in the sixth house is a sure omen of majestic business
success and honestly earned riches. Even in a horary or solar
return chart, this position is most promising!

7. This position never seems to accomplish anything. The whole
affair might stand on rotten legs. Outdated ideas, unfinished
projects, too strong opposition, the lack of support, goods,
base materials. Time to start something really new and strong.

8. Taking a chance on a risky new enterprise. The total reform
means investing in new facilities. Food industry favored.
Strong opposition and competition. Disharmony within the
enterprise. Good for fashion designers and stylists who
aim at shocking the public. Works fine with Chariklo.
Good for fast food. Excellent for `usa e getta' use and
dispose off objects. Bad for merchandise awaiting too long
for shipping. Excellent for Murano glass. This position
seems to favor original ideas, possibly turned into mass
product and shipped immediately. One example could be the
Pokemons. The feel is this is not an easy position for Quaoar.

9. Legal issues. A very hard position. Partners will quarrel.
Old karma resurface. In extreme cases lawsuits require even
carceration. Interference, jealousy, mafia, physical injury,
agressive negotiations. A third party very likely interferes.

Industrial espionage, criminal, mangled or old goods sold,
lawsuits follow. The market in it's triumphal madness. Stock
exchange. Sanctions. War games. Meat industry. Cat food.

This position is enhanced with any Sun Mars square.

10. Quaoar in the tenth house has a surprising impact on the
horoscope. If this planetoid ever appeared as calm and
transparent, it is in this position that it shows it's
transforming power. Almost like Pluto, it does not
tollerate old positions. It favors violent upheavals
instead. Wherever `dislodging' was mentioned, it is
this side of Quaoar that acts. Invisible in time to
an unattentive observerer, the ever present change
acts and with vehemence, too, to the surprise of the
monopolist. Something moved in the corner. Tentacles
grew in the dark lake. There was a stirring in the
reeds. The guardian who ignored it will see his tyrant
unhorsed and his reign speeded into oblivion now.

The Wheel of Fortune is unfavorable to the tyrant. In
political terms this refers to revolutionary change.
The Doge of Venice was humiliated by Napoleon. Venetian
churches were stripped of their Bons, Tintorettos, Tizians,
Tiepolos, Palmas and Strozzis. One loses his political
independence and is punished for tyrany. Often the change
comes typically from within his enterprise.

Quaoar in the tenth house mercilessly announces losing
power while being humiliated by the confiscation of one's
possessions. It is thus the herald of bancrupcy.

I might add that Venice did plunder for at least a couple
of hundred of years. This mediteranean transport monopolist
loot includes two monumental columns one can observe nowdays
in the main square. They were too heavy for Napoleon to take.

But don't count on the apparently implicit message and get
away with it. Things xhange, will change and Napoleon can
still bombard the collumns. Those who gained will lose. It
might not be visible now. Wait for some triggering direction
and transit and monopolism ends up in one day.

This can mean great stock exchange upheavals unrepairable by
today's technology. Old rubber on a stalled market does not
stand a chance. Old rubber has not the elastic qualities this
penetrating planetoid attacks with triumph. This is Quaoar
announcing a new aeon.

11. With Quaoar in the eleventh house, whether in a nativity
or a horary chart, one is well advized to save his stocks
and resources. The eleventh house is of course the one of
the money earned by the enterprise.

As a rule: do nothing. When unsure, don't act. And when
you act, act from slightly behind the scene. Keep what you
got, especially real estate. Form a trust, an interest
circle, a club; but trust only the oldest friends.

Beginnings of big enterprises. Imperial adventures. Ruling
a land. The Queen and the country. We're losing droids fast.

Only old friends will do, and as a rule only those in which
you had and could have confidence at least for the last ten
years.

Olive oil industry and resources are favored, woman clubs,
a long established exchange with a minister, friends few
but tried and true. In fact a decrease in social mingling
seems favored. Discretion. This is the position of the
stalker secretly moving with refined detachment; instead
of the lurking, thus obvious unpatient beginner.

12. This last house paradoxally cherishes the former monopolists
and successful people in your business. One pilgrims to the
tomb of Henry Ford. One lights a candle for Forbes. No need
for alarm but this does not seem to be a richly enjoying
house party. The conclusion of worldly ambitions. Some quite
unnecessary and unproductive regret.

The position is obviousely past one's competence, but as one
leaves the world, little errors can be pardoned. I note in
sheer horror that the person is in favorable position of
communication with the other world. Dead persons will yield
informations and skelletons will speak.

In my oppinion, this position is one of the person tryin to
profit from the experiences of deceased businessmen. Occult
means can be applied, and in fact I see them working!

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Subject: SRCH3 (1/1)

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JPL/DASTCOM3 Small-body Search Results 2002-Dec-27 06:5
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Asteroids only parameter search:
H < 5.5;

Matching small-bodies:

Record # Epoch-yr Primary Desig Name H
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1 2000 (undefined) Ceres 3.34
2 2001 (undefined) Pallas 4.13
3 1978 (undefined) Juno 5.33
4 2000 (undefined) Vesta 3.20
10 1994 (undefined) Hygiea 5.43
15 1993 (undefined) Eunomia 5.16
15874 2002 1996 TL66 [...unnamed...] 5.40
19308 2002 1996 TO66 [...unnamed...] 4.50
19521 2002 1998 WH24 Chaos 4.90
20000 2002 2000 WR106 Varuna 3.70
24835 2002 1995 SM55 [...unnamed...] 4.80
26181 2002 1996 GQ21 [...unnamed...] 5.20
26375 2002 1999 DE9 [...unnamed...] 4.70
28978 2002 2001 KX76 Ixion 3.20
38628 2002 2000 EB173 [...unnamed...] 4.70
42301 2002 2001 UR163 [...unnamed...] 4.20
47171 2002 1999 TC36 [...unnamed...] 4.90
48639 2002 1995 TL8 [...unnamed...] 5.40
50000 2002 2002 LM60 Quaoar 2.60
100182 2002 2002 MS4 [...unnamed...] 4.10
100448 2002 2001 CZ31 [...unnamed...] 5.40
101512 2002 2002 AW197 [...unnamed...] 3.30
101879 2002 2002 KX14 [...unnamed...] 4.70
102943 2002 1997 CS29 [...unnamed...] 5.20
103874 2002 2000 YW134 [...unnamed...] 5.10
123187 2002 2000 CJ105 [...unnamed...] 5.40
123191 2002 2000 CN105 [...unnamed...] 5.00
123192 2002 2000 CO105 [...unnamed...] 5.40
126291 2002 1999 CD158 [...unnamed...] 5.10
127042 2002 2002 PJ149 [...unnamed...] 5.30
127210 2002 2002 PQ145 [...unnamed...] 5.40
131702 2002 2002 TX300 [...unnamed...] 3.30
143978 2002 2001 YH140 [...unnamed...] 5.10
144024 2002 2002 CY248 [...unnamed...] 4.90
158038 2002 2002 UX25 [...unnamed...] 3.60
158062 2002 2002 TC302 [...unnamed...] 3.90
158340 2002 2001 KA77 [...unnamed...] 5.00
167179 2002 2001 QT297 [...unnamed...] 5.30
167184 2002 2001 QY297 [...unnamed...] 5.30
167191 2002 2001 QF298 [...unnamed...] 4.70
167197 2002 2001 QS322 [...unnamed...] 5.40
167213 2002 2001 UQ18 [...unnamed...] 4.90
192106 2002 2002 GV31 [...unnamed...] 5.30
200050 2002 2002 VE95 [...unnamed...] 5.30

(44 matches. To SELECT, enter record # (integer), followed by semi-colon.)
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Gandalf in Bush, pa novi transneptunski gigant 2003 AZ84.

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tno update

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efemeride komaj danes (NASA), gre se za 16 raka (106).






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A ni nasa že potrdila obstoj 10 planeta-vsaj tako pravi Mohorič.Si mogoče bral sobotno prilogo dela iz 18.01 2003 kjer avtor Robert G.Bauval razlaga tezo da je bil napad na USA 11 septembra del velikega načrta načrta ki ga je že Aleister Crowley opisal kot da mora satan _aiweis uničiti judovskega Jehovo, da bi se ponovno rodil.Ne vspe mi povezat zakaj je bil BinLaden na spisko plačancev CIA,in da so oni (CIA) naročili napad.HVALA ZA DRAGOCENE PODATKE (iluzija muce Mice je v tarotu opisana kot velika svečenica;5 je pa itak simbol prostozidarjev,pentagram.)

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Quaoar je nekaj manjshi kot Pluton. Mislish na brown dwarfs? NASA skenira in bom obvestil che je kaj uradnega. 12 planetov seveda po shumeranski. Crowley? Odlichen astrolog. Kjer je to Crowley ... mislim dost je tega pisal, kakshnih 650 ? knjig, traktatov. Kdo je Mohorich?
jaz sem ta hip na bavarskem, ne zhivim v Sloveniji. jahweh naj bi bil ENLIL itn. Zanimiiva tema. Eni (zetatalk) imajo koordinate Nibiru-ja. Pravkar predstavljam brown dwarfs (veliko je rachuna, SIMBAD server itn). 93 claudio

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Ne NASA nima z tem nich. Nekaj chasa nazaj so pa vstanovili 'Delegacijo Sonchnega Sistema' (?), to je uradno. Kjer naj bi bil deseti? Quaora vpade pod 'minor planets', she vedno. Celo Pluto naj bi bil TNO, Neptun ta zadnji. Za desetega nisem slishal. Uradno? NASA? Prav gotovo bi slishal, saj se 'zraven'. Pluto je pravzaprav transneptun (to izhaja iz orbite). Deseti bi moral imeti designacijo, oziroma ime RA/decl; efemeride. Nibiru je neuradno skeniran. Saj vem da nekaj mutijo sem pa tja pa ih ne sprashujem prevech; lep pozdrav , C.

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